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EARLY CHURCH

Ambrose
Ambrose, Pseudo
Andreas
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Aphrahat
Athanasius
Augustine
Barnabus
BarSerapion
Baruch, Pseudo
Bede
Chrysostom
Chrysostom, Pseudo
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Clement, Rome
Clement, Pseudo
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Ephraem
Epiphanes
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Gregory
Hegesippus
Hippolytus
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Justin Martyr
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Matthew
Melito
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Apostle Paul
Apostle Peter
Maurus Rabanus
Remigius
"Solomon"
Severus
St. Symeon
Tertullian
Theophylact
Victorinus

HISTORICAL PRETERISM
(Minor Fulfillment of Matt. 24/25 or Revelation in Past)

Joseph Addison
Oswald T. Allis
Thomas Aquinas
Karl Auberlen
Augustine
Albert Barnes
Karl Barth
G.K. Beale
Beasley-Murray
John Bengel
Wilhelm Bousset
John A. Broadus

David Brown
"Haddington Brown"
F.F. Bruce

Augustin Calmut
John Calvin
B.H. Carroll
Johannes Cocceius
Vern Crisler
Thomas Dekker
Wilhelm De Wette
Philip Doddridge
Isaak Dorner
Dutch Annotators
Alfred Edersheim
Jonathan Edwards

E.B. Elliott
Heinrich Ewald
Patrick Fairbairn
Js. Farquharson
A.R. Fausset
Robert Fleming
Hermann Gebhardt
Geneva Bible
Charles Homer Giblin
John Gill
William Gilpin
W.B. Godbey
Ezra Gould
Hank Hanegraaff
Hengstenberg
Matthew Henry
G.A. Henty
George Holford
Johann von Hug
William Hurte
J, F, and Brown
B.W. Johnson
John Jortin
Benjamin Keach
K.F. Keil
Henry Kett
Richard Knatchbull
Johann Lange

Cornelius Lapide
Nathaniel Lardner
Jean Le Clerc
Peter Leithart
Jack P. Lewis
Abiel Livermore
John Locke
Martin Luther

James MacDonald
James MacKnight
Dave MacPherson
Keith Mathison
Philip Mauro
Thomas Manton
Heinrich Meyer
J.D. Michaelis
Johann Neander
Sir Isaac Newton
Thomas Newton
Stafford North
Dr. John Owen
 Blaise Pascal
William W. Patton
Arthur Pink

Thomas Pyle
Maurus Rabanus
St. Remigius

Anne Rice
Kim Riddlebarger
J.C. Robertson
Edward Robinson
Andrew Sandlin
Johann Schabalie
Philip Schaff
Thomas Scott
C.J. Seraiah
Daniel Smith
Dr. John Smith
C.H. Spurgeon

Rudolph E. Stier
A.H. Strong
St. Symeon
Theophylact
Friedrich Tholuck
George Townsend
James Ussher
Wm. Warburton
Benjamin Warfield

Noah Webster
John Wesley
B.F. Westcott
William Whiston
Herman Witsius
N.T. Wright

John Wycliffe
Richard Wynne
C.F.J. Zullig

MODERN PRETERISTS
(Major Fulfillment of Matt. 24/25 or Revelation in Past)

Firmin Abauzit
Jay Adams
Luis Alcazar
Greg Bahnsen
Beausobre, L'Enfant
Jacques Bousset
John L. Bray
David Brewster
Dr. John Brown
Thomas Brown
Newcombe Cappe
David Chilton
Adam Clarke

Henry Cowles
Ephraim Currier
R.W. Dale
Gary DeMar
P.S. Desprez
Johann Eichhorn
Heneage Elsley
F.W. Farrar
Samuel Frost
Kenneth Gentry
Steve Gregg
Hugo Grotius
Francis X. Gumerlock
Henry Hammond
Hampden-Cook
Friedrich Hartwig
Adolph Hausrath
Thomas Hayne
J.G. Herder
Timothy Kenrick
J. Marcellus Kik
Samuel Lee
Peter Leithart
John Lightfoot
Benjamin Marshall
F.D. Maurice
Marion Morris
Ovid Need, Jr
Wm. Newcombe
N.A. Nisbett
Gary North
Randall Otto
Zachary Pearce
Andrew Perriman
Beilby Porteus
Ernst Renan
Gregory Sharpe
Fr. Spadafora
R.C. Sproul
Moses Stuart
Milton S. Terry
Herbert Thorndike
C. Vanderwaal
Foy Wallace
Israel P. Warren
Chas Wellbeloved
J.J. Wetstein
Richard Weymouth
Daniel Whitby
George Wilkins
E.P. Woodward
 

FUTURISTS
(Virtually No Fulfillment of Matt. 24/25 & Revelation in 1st C. - Types Only ; Also Included are "Higher Critics" Not Associated With Any Particular Eschatology)

Henry Alford
G.C. Berkower
Alan Patrick Boyd
John Bradford
Wm. Burkitt
George Caird
Conybeare/ Howson
John Crossan
John N. Darby
C.H. Dodd
E.B. Elliott
G.S. Faber
Jerry Falwell
Charles G. Finney
J.P. Green Sr.
Murray Harris
Thomas Ice

Benjamin Jowett
John N.D. Kelly

Hal Lindsey
John MacArthur
William Miller
Robert Mounce

Eduard Reuss

J.A.T. Robinson
George Rosenmuller
D.S. Russell
George Sandison
C.I. Scofield
Dr. John Smith

Norman Snaith
"Televangelists"
Thomas Torrance
Jack/Rex VanImpe
John Walvoord

Quakers : George Fox | Margaret Fell (Fox) | Isaac Penington


PRETERIST UNIVERSALISM | MODERN PRETERISM | PRETERIST IDEALISM


Modern "Televangelists"

     "The deplorable conditions which I recently encountered when I was a visitor constrained me to prepare this brief and simple catechism or statement of Christian teaching. Good God, what wretchedness I beheld! The common people have no knowledge whatsoever of Christian teaching, and unfortunately many pastors are quite incompetent and unfitted for teaching. Although the people are supposed to be Christian, are baptized, and receive the holy sacrament, they live as if they were pigs and irrational beasts, and now that the Gospel has been restored they have mastered the fine art of abusing liberty.
     How will you bishops answer for it before Christ that you have so shamefully neglected the people and paid no attention at all to the duties of your office? May you escape punishment for this!  Woe to you forever!
- Martin Luther (preface to Luther's Shorter Catechism)

 

Benny Hinn

Benny Hinn "Man, I feel revelation knowledge already coming on me here. Lift your hands. Something new is going to happen here today. I felt it as I walked down here. Holy Spirit, take over in the name of Jesus...God the Father, ladies and gentlemen, is a person; separate from the Son and the Holy Ghost. Say, what did you say? Hear it, hear it, hear it. See, God the Father is a person, God the Son is a person, God the Holy Ghost is a person. But each one of them is a triune being by Himself. If I can shock you - and maybe I should - there's nine of them. Huh, what did you say? Let me explain: God the Father, ladies and gentlemen, is a person with his own personal spirit, with his own personal soul, and his own personal spirit-body. You say, Huh, I never heard that. Well you think you're in this church to hear things you've heard for the last 50 years? You can't argue with the Word, can you? It's all in the Word."
- "Benny Hinn" program on TBN, 10/30/90.

"God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost - three separate individuals, one in essence, one in work - and, may I add, each one of them possesses His own spirit-body. You don't like it?" - "Praise the Lord", 10/23/92

"The Holy Ghost is upon me...The day is coming when those that attack us will drop dead. You say, 'What did you say?' I speak this under the anointing of the Spirit. Can I tell you something? Don't touch God's servants; it's deadly...Woe to you that touch God's servants. You're going to pay. 'And the day will come," the Lord said that to me. He said, "The day will come when I will punish instantly. Woe to those that touch my chosen.' They will fear us. Hear this: today they mock us; tomorrow they will fear us." - "Miracle Invasion Rally," Anaheim Convention Center, 11/22/91

"Adam was a super being when God created him. I don't know whether people realize this, but he was the first Superman that really ever lived. First of all, the Scriptures declare clearly that he had dominion over the fowls of the air, the fish of the sea - which means he used to fly. Of course, how can he have dominion over the birds and not be able to do what they do? The word 'dominion' in the Hebrew clearly declares that if you have dominion over a subject, that you do everything that subject does. In other words, that subject, if it does something you cannot do, you don't have dominion over it. I'll prove it further. Adam not only flew, he flew to space. He was - with one thought he would be on the moon." - TBN "Praise the Lord" program, 12/26/91

"God came from heaven, became a man, made man into little gods, went back to heaven as a man. He faces the Father as a man. I face devils as the son of God...Quit your nonsense! What else are you? If you say I am, you're saying I'm a part of Him, right? Is he God? Are you His offspring? Are you His children? You can't be human! You can't! You can't! God didn't give birth to the flesh...You said, 'Well, that's heresy.' No, that's your crazy brain saying that." - "Our Position In Christ #2 - The Word Made Flesh" video tape #255, Orlando Christian Center, 1991

"Ladies and gentlemen, the serpent is a symbol of Satan. Jesus Christ knew the only way He would stop Satan is by becoming one in nature with him. You say, 'What did you say? What blasphemy is this?' No, you hear this! He did not take my sin; He became my sin. Sin is the nature of hell. Sin is what made Satan...It was sin that made Satan. Jesus said, 'I'll be sin! I'll go to the lowest place! I'll go to the origin of it! I won't just take part in it, I'll be the totality of it!' When Jesus became sin, sir, He took it from A to Z and said, 'No more!' Think about this: He became flesh, that flesh might become like Him. He became death, so dying man can live. He became sin, so sinners can be righteous in Him. He became one with the nature of Satan, so all those who had the nature of Satan can partake of the nature of God." - "Benny Hinn" program, TBN, 12/15/90

"Now, are you ready for some real revelation knowledge? OK. Now watch this: He laid aside His divine form...so one day I would be clothed on earth with the divine form. Kenneth Hagin has a teaching. A lot of people have problems with it. Yet it is absolute truth. Kenneth Copeland has a teaching. Many Christians have put holes in it, but it's divine truth. Hagin and Copeland say: You are god. Ye are gods. 'Oh, I can't be god.' Hold it. Let's bring balance to this teaching. The balance is taught by Copeland, who is my dear friend, but it's those that repeat what he says that are messing it up. You see there brother? When Jesus was on earth, the Bible says that first He disrobed Himself of the divine form. He, the limitless God, became a man, that we men, may become as He is." - "Our Position In Christ" cassette tape #A031190, Orlando Christian Center, 1990

 

Kenneth Copeland

Marshal "God cannot do anything for you apart or separate from faith. Faith is God's source of power." - "Freedom from Fear," KCM, 1980, pg. 11-12

"Adam committed high treason; and at that point, all the dominion and authority God had given tohim was handed over to Satan. Suddenly, God was on the outside looking in...After Adam's fall, God found Himself in a peculiar position...God needed an avenue back into the earth...God laid out His proposition and Abram accepted it. It gave God access to the earth and gave man access to God...Technically, if God ever broke the Covenant, He would have to destroy Himself." - "Our Covenant With God," KCP Publications, 1987, pages 8-11

"God's reason for creating Adam was His desire to reproduce Himself...He was not a little like God. He was not almost like God. He was not subordinate to God even." - "Following the Faith of Abraham I", KCM audiotape #01-3001, 1989

"The Spirit of God spoke to me and He said, 'Son, realize this. Now follow me in this and don't let your tradition trip you up.' He said, 'Think this way - a twice born man whipped Satan in his own domain.' And I threw my Bible down...like that. I said, 'What?' He said, 'A born-again man defeated Satan, the firstborn of many brethren defeated him.' He said, 'You are the very image, the very copy of that one.' I said, 'Goodness, gracious sakes alive!' And I began to see what had gone on in there, and I said, 'Well now you don't mean, you couldn't dare mean, that I could have done the same thing?' He said, 'Oh yeah, if you'd had the knowledge of God that He did, you could've done the same thing, 'cause you're a reborn man too." - "Substitution & Identification", KCM audiotape #00-0202, 1989

 

Bob Larson

Larson "Christians are combatants in a conflict between good and evil, light and darkness, God and the devil." - "In The Name of Satan," Thomas Nelson, 1996, page XI

"I insisted that Christians claiming to have demons were making excuses for problems of carnality or personal lack of discipline; they were avoiding the tough part of growing in grace and maturing in a deeper understanding of Scripture. I overcame this theological prejudice...I discovered that the issue wasn't as conclusive as I had thought...I realized that those pastors and Bible teachers who had repeatedly reinforced the 'Christian can't have a demon' outlook had very little practical experience with the phenomenon. I concluded that, while doctrine is not based on experience, the lack of experiential testimony is about such a crucial area of spiritual deliverance was a glaring weakness....The moment a person is born into the kingdom of God by faith in Christ (Eph.2:8-9), the spirit is eternally reborn and belongs to God...However, man is a tripartite being (1Thess 5:23), and there are aspects of the human condition that Satan can afflict. While he is prohibited from touching the spirit of God's saints, nothing prevents him from tormenting the body and soul - if the disobedient conduct of a Christian allows him to do so." - "In The Name Of Satan" - Thomas Nelson Publishing, 1996, page 75

"What about those instances in which a demon manifests in a Christian? In most cases the demon entered before the believer's conversion to Christianity, and the evil spirit continued to control some part of the Christian's life because the specific occult sin was never renounced. The demon claims squatters rights." - "ITNOS", Thomas Nelson Publishing, 1996, page 78

"I have had my physical appearance duplicated by demons." "ITNOS", Thomas Nelson Publishing, 1996, page 154

"Our future is at stake, I'm battling the forces of darkness and I've got to know that you are there and you care about me remaining behind this microphone to deal with the devil and expose what the forces of evil are doing to destroy your home, your church, and your family so back me now!" "Talk-Back" radio program, 1/7/97

[Larson is speaking to an alleged demon.] "Breathe in the Holy Spirit right now - I command you to breathe deeply, BREATHE DEEPLY, breathe the Holy Spirit! The angels of God make you breathe in the Holy Spirit!!" - Live radio broadcast, 1/7/97.

[speaking about potential recruits of Satanism] "They are fairly obvious - the music that he listens to, the friends that he keeps, the literature that he reads. Not any one of these things or even a combination necessarily means that the kid is in Satanism, but if there is an obsession with these types of things, some indication that his life is totally absorbed around black metal music, or absorbed around reading occult literature or seeing horror films, then the parents had best start asking some very serious questions." (Emphasis added.) - Bob Larson interview, TBN, October 1997.

 

Rod Parsley

Parsley "God hasn't stopped giving faith - He is still imparting faith to you. That is the reason your spirit man on the inside of you is always full of faith. It is not your spirit man that is full of doubt and unbelief - it is your mind, your will, and your emotions. Your spirit man will believe. When you hear somebody preach under the anointing or you read something in the Word, something on the inside of you just says, 'Yes! Yes! Yes' Your spirit man believes whatever God says. Your spirit man will believe whatever God says...Your spirit man can take your mind's limits off of God." - "Repairers of the Breach," Results Publishing, 1992, page 172

"Forget Paul's Thorn! We know God has the power to heal. He translated us out of the power of darkness and into the kingdom of light...You know Jesus has the power to heal. In this chapter, I am absolutely intent on convincing you that not only does He have the power to heal you, it is His absolute and perfect will to heal you. We do not have to sift through Paul's thorn, Job's boils, or Timothy's sick stomach to try to understand the perfect will of God. You must realize Paul's infirmity was not in his flesh; it was his soulish man - his mind, his will, and emotions. We know this because he told us the thorn was a messenger of Satan sent to buffet him....It is time preachers stop trying to make excuses for their lack of faith and understanding of the Word of God." - "ROB", Results Publishing, 1992, pages 267, 268

"On the inside of you, you will sense something prompting you to say words and syllables. Just open your mouth and let the words flow. I do not care if it is 'la, la, la,' or 'da, da, da.' The devil hates it all." - "ROB", Results Publishing, 1992, page 236

"I don't want to look like I slept upside down in a posthole, like I bounced off the back of a covered wagon, like I am eating out of trash cans, like I am living out of a food pantry, or like I am getting my clothes from the missionary barrel. I have had enough of that. You can keep it if you want to. I will endure the persecution that comes with the blessing. Why hasn't the body of Christ received this truth? Why are we not living this reality? I am telling you, if you will pray God's way, God can open up whatever you need opened up in your life. Your prayer, mixed with giving, will become a memorial before God." - "ROB", Results Publishing, 1992, page 327

"It's as simple and as tragic as this: When I cut stations, souls may be lost for eternity." - Fundraising letter, September, 1997

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Date:

05 Nov 2003

Time:

16:35:34

Comments

Wow...the four little pigs. Wish they all stayed home. Maybe an angel will huff and puff and blow their houses down. I repent. It's good Jesus came for the sick. Sorry. RW, San Diego


Date:

11 Jan 2004

Time:

20:08:29

Comments

AS FAR AS "I-AM" IS CONCERNED, YOU ALL ARE DEALING WITH THE DEMONIC POWERS OF DARKNESS. bECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE NOT A LOVE FOR "TRUTH" I WILL BRING YOU A STRONG DELUSION, THAT IF POSSIBLE IT WILL DECIEVE THE VERY ELECT, AND IT HAS. YOU ALL PROCLAIM TO WORSHIP THE SAME GOD AND YET CANNOT AGREE TO THE SAME TRUTH. THERE IS SOME CONFUSION THERE. WHO IS THE MASTER OF CONFUSION? THE EVIL FORCES, ALONG WITH THE MASTER ITSELF, BAAL,{LORD}. THIS FORCE HAS ALWAYS WANTED TO BE WORSHIPPED, AND IT IS EVERYDAY BY YOU ALL WHO SPEAK WITH FORKED TONGUES AND NOT EVEN KNOW IT! WHEN YOU ALL CAN START TO RIGHTLY DEVIDE THE WORD ONE JOT OR TIDDLE AT A TIME AND CLEAN UP YOUR LANGUAGE THEN YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SEE OR EVEN HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT IS SAYING TO THE CHURCHES. COME OUT AND BE SEPERATE. TOUCH NOT THE UNCLEAN THING AND DO NOT WORSHIP ME LIKE THOSE (7) HEATHEN NATIONS DO THEIR ELOHIM OR YOU WILL SUFFER THE JUDGEMENT. I-AM CALLING MY CHILDREN HOME. DO YOU REMEMBER MY NAME? IN LOVE A FRIEND FROM HOME.


Date:

27 Mar 2004

Time:

16:08:10

Comments

HAHA! Some of this stuff is funny, but it is sad at the same time. What is up with that response from January 11, 2004? LOL! Seems to me that if you are going to write in first person, as if writing for God, that you would at least spell things correctly. Strange quotes above, to say the least. DBS, March 27, 2004


Date:

20 Apr 2004

Time:

10:57:36

Comments

Wow! These are some powerful statements. Thanks for the important truths that these men have shared in the past with fellow believers. This website is attempting to bring division to the Body of Christ, and they doing nothing but teaching others through these men of God that they are quoting. Thanks! :)


Date:

20 Apr 2004

Time:

10:59:00

Comments

Wow! These are some powerful statements. Thanks for the important truths that these men have shared in the past with fellow believers. This website is attempting to bring division to the Body of Christ, and they doing nothing but teaching others through these men of God that they are quoting. Thanks! :)


Date:

20 Apr 2004

Time:

10:59:29

Comments

Wow! These are some powerful statements. Thanks for the important truths that these men have shared in the past with fellow believers. This website is attempting to bring division to the Body of Christ, and they doing nothing but teaching others through these men of God that they are quoting. Thanks! :)


Date:

17 May 2004

Time:

21:45:15

Comments

I don't think I understand. Are you PROMOTING these televangelists or are you saying that they are false prophets?


Date:

17 Jun 2004

Time:

21:12:04

Comments

dope.


Date:

17 Nov 2004

Time:

12:03:53

Comments

Moses is on the mountain of sinai for 40 days AND Jesus is in the wilderness for 40 days!! BABEL spelled with Greek letters (and using their 'numerical values') yields "40". First Peter 5:l3 (New English Bible) states: "Greetings from her who dwells in Babel . . ." ARE WE DEALING WITH A VARIATION ON A THEME?! [WALTER C. CAMBRA]


Date:

05 Jan 2005

Time:

00:00:28

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Date:

05 Jan 2005

Time:

00:10:06

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I take exception to the comment that this website is bringing division to the Body of Christ. I am a Christian pastor and I am personally sick of the money grubbing parasites that that use the name of my Lord Jesus to line their pockets. These preachers care nothing about the truth or people. They care about money, homes, cars, airplanes,etc... It is all about money. It is time for Christians to wake up and recognize these scam artists for what they are.


Date:

16 Jan 2005

Time:

14:08:37

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Only someone completely blinded to the truth of the Bible could believe what these men have said. How dare they presume to speak for God? I pray that God will open all our eyes to what the real truth is, but I know it is definately not what these men are saying!


Date:

04 Feb 2005

Time:

14:22:52

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The CIRCUIT RIDER vs. The TELEVANGELIST" -by Michael Edds <MichaelEdds@aol.com> In my continued research on the "old wells of revival" I have discovered some incredibly contrasting bits of information. One of the top televangelists in the nation was recently invited to preach in Baltimore, Maryland. His terms for coming were #1. That he must be picked up by a limousine at the airport, #2. that he must have $1,000 spending money, #3. That he must be guaranteed at least $10,000 in offerings. This same televangelist/ pastor lives in a multi million dollar mansion, eats in the finest restaurants and wears the most expensive tailor-made suits. His writings and speaking engagements have garnered millions of dollars. He brags that he is a role model of the prosperity message of our day. He pastors a mega church, appears on national and international television, has authored many books and draws tens of thousands to hear him. To his credit, he is a powerful, commanding speaker. However, please contrast this to the following life and ministry of the great circuit rider, Francis Asbury in the late 1700s and early 1800s. While still in his 20's, Bishop Francis Asbury left his home and family forever in England to come to a wilderness called America. He came to be a traveling preacher/evangelist in a nation with little infrastructure such as roads, decent housing, few hotels and restaurants, poor sanitation and dangerous drinking water, few medical professionals and limited law enforcement. The nation had recently plunged into a violent war of independence against Asbury's native land of England. The American frontier was also ablaze with war between the colonist and Native Americans tribes. Asbury was not greeted upon his arrival by a limo. He had to purchase a horse on which he traveled 6,000 a year for over 40 years. His financial reward was $60 a year, much of which he gave away or sent back to England to help his parents. He wore hand-me-downs not tailor made suits. He had no retirement, no insurance, no dental plan, and no 401 k. He set no fee for his ministry. What he did receive, he often gave away. He traveled on "roads" on which his horse sank many times knee-deep in mud. If a road did not exist, he would lead his horse over the steep, rocky inclines of the Appalachians to reach a pioneer community. Many times, his feet and legs were bloodied and bruised by the horrific journey. When he came to a river where there was no bridge or ferry, he would swim his horse across. Numerous times he was nearly drowned by an angry, swollen stream. His "hotel" on many occasions was on a dirt floor in an overcrowded, rat- infested frontier cabin. Often times he slept in the woods, on a mountain ledge or in a damp cave. Many days he would travel over 60 miles with nothing to eat. The paths and roads he traveled were full of dangers from murderers, thieves, wolves, bears, poisonous snakes and roaming bands of Native Americans with whom the frontiersmen were at war. If he met someone who needed a cloak, food or money, he would take what he had and give it to the person in need. Asbury sought out the forgotten, hidden places of early America. He traveled from New England, to the Midwest, and to the Deep South spreading the Gospel of Christ. When he would meet a person who was ill, he would minister to their physical needs with the last medication he had. He demanded nothing of others in order to come into a community. The demands he made were on himself. Frequently, his body would be racked with pain, illness, fever, hunger and weakness. His physical being would cry out for rest and nourishment. However, his spirit ruled his body. When truly unable to travel, he would mount his horse and ride for 8 hours or more through blinding snow storms, torrential rain or in oppressive heat. He too had been invited to Baltimore. In 1816 he was traveling by buggy through Virginia headed to the annual conference in Baltimore. However, he was dying. His last sermon was preached in Richmond. He had to be carried into the meeting room. He commented, "I am too weak to walk but not to preach." They sat him on a small table and he ministered the Word for the last time. He made it as far as Spottsylvania twenty miles north of Richmond. He body was rapidly failing. He stopped at a friend's house on Saturday. Shortly before he left this world he was asked, "Do you feel Jesus precious?" Summoning his last remaining strength, the great circuit rider raised both hands in victory. Minutes later he laid his head on a friend's hand and gently slipped away to be with the Lord. He owned no mansion, no land, and no bank account. His net worth was what he wore on his body. He was buried in a borrowed grave plot. When Asbury came to America, there were few Methodist believers and fewer preachers. At the end of his ministry, there were over 200,000 Methodist believers and almost 8,000 ministers. He impacted lives of thousands upon thousands. He changed the very course of American history. Among his converts were poor farmers, merchants, Governors of several states, frontiersmen, slaves, Native Americans, State Supreme Court Justices, attorneys, physicians, house wives, children, youth and people from all walks of life. He gave all he had. He sought nothing for himself. His passion was to bring salvation and the Light of the Gospel to those in darkness of sin. He loved a nation and made it his own even though he was not her native son. Quite a CONTRAST between the CIRCUIT RIDER and the TELEVANGELIST! One was selfless, the other selfish. One was people-centered, the other ego-centered. One was a Kingdom builder, the other an empire builder. One drew souls into the Kingdom of God, the other drew the masses into an arena. One demanded of himself, the other demanded of others. One gave freely, the other commanded a price. One was a servant, the other a celebrity. Hebrews 11:32-38 speaks about the real heroes of the faith: They were....."tortured, not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection. Still others had trial of mocking and beatings, and of chains and imprisonment. They were stoned, they were sawn in two, were tempted, were slain with the sword. They wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, tormented... they wandered in deserts, and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth.... of whom the world was not worthy." How long are we going to tolerate the "superstar syndrome" in the church? How long are we going to feed the ego and pocketbooks of these self-seeking charlatans, regardless of how articulate they are? How long will we continue to pack their arenas and buy their CDs, DVDs and books? How long will we pick them up in limos, and line their wallets with thousands and thousands of dollars to spend on self? How long will we tolerate apostasy??? My God, how far we have fallen!!!! God is calling on us as His people to repent and turn from our wicked ways. He is calling us to seek HIS face. I am praying that God will overthrow this current, perverted religious system and will fulfill Jeremiah 3:15 and give us shepherds after His own heart..... -Mike Edds.


Date: 31 Jul 2005
Time: 16:12:01

Comments:

I THINK WE ALL NEED TO BE CAREFUL. TO HIM THAT
THINK HE STANDETH, LET HIM TAKE HEED LEST HE FALLS. (I AM PARAPHRASING THAT SOMEWHAT) SO PLEASE DO NOT ATTACK ME IF IT IS NOT QUOTED EXACTLY RIGHT. I AM NOT FALSE, I JUST DO NOT HAVE MY BIBLE IN THE SAME ROOM WITH ME AT PRESENT.


MMMMMMMMMMMMM REMEMBER WHAT THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS SAID ABOUT JESUS AND WHO HE WAS ALSO. LET US ALL EXAMINE OUR HEARTS VERY, VERY CAREFULLY. SOME, NOT ALL OF THESE MEN AND WOMEN MAY BE IN THE CALLING THAT GOD ALMIGHTY ORDAINED FOR THEM. IF THEY GET OFF SOMEWHAT THEN GOD HIMSELF KNOWS HOW TO WHIP THEM BACK INTO LINE. HE IS THE LORD OF GLORY. MY GOODNESS DAVID WOULD NOT HAVE STOOD A CHANCE IN THIS DAY AND AGE BECAUSE HE COMMITED A SEXUAL SIN, PLOTTED AND KILLED AN INNOCENT, BUT NOBLE MAN WHO WAS IN HIS ARMY, AND THEN LIED ABOUT IT. DAVID DID DESERVE TO DIE, BUT GOD SAW HIS HEART. IF THERE IS REPENTENCE AND I SEE IT ON SOME NOT ALL INCLUDING MYSELF AND I AM A NOBODY IN THE WORLD'S VIEW, WHAT CAN THE FATHER DO WITH THESE PEOPLE IF THEY VENTURE OF THE PATH BUT RETURN. NONE OF US WILL WALK A PERFECT LINE DOWN HERE INCLUDING YOU, THESE MEN AND WOMEN, AND MYSELF.

DON'T YOU KNOW THAT THOSE THAT HATE GOD, AND THAT ARE UNDER CONVICTION LIKE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I HEAR IT IN MY FAMILY AND OTHERS THAT GOD IS DEALING WITH. BUT WHEN CHRISTIAN'S PULL DOWN OTHER CHRISTIAN'S IN A CERTAIN WAY (NOT IN A REDEMPTIVE WAY) THEN THOSE UNDER CONVICTION DESIRE TO HEAR AND SEE THIS. IT CAUSES THEM TO SAY SEE I AM OKAY WITH GOD, LOOK AT THESE PEOPLE AND IT CAUSES THEM TO FEEL JUSTIFIED TO CONTINUE ON IN A WAY AS TO NOT SURRENDER THEIR LIVES TO JESUS. HOW DO I KNOW THAT? BECAUSE 30 YEARS AGO I STOPPED RUNNING FROM THAT CALL AND ANSWERED IT. BUT BEFORE THEN AS I WAS RUNNING WITH ALL MY MIGHT IF I HEARD ANY NEGATIVE TALK ON A BORN-AGAIN PERSON, THE CONVICTION IN MY HEART WOULD EASE UP AND I WOULD FEEL SAFE BECAUSE IF I HEARD OR SAW A FLAW IN A BORN-AGAIN PERSON'S LIFE THEN I KNEW THAT JESUS WOULD NOT DEAL WITH ME BECAUSE LOOK AT THE ONE THAT WAS ALREADY SAVED.


WE MUST BE CAREFUL IN OUR WORDS. I DO NOT THINK WE HAVE THE MANDATE FROM GOD TO SAY ALL THAT WE THINK WE SHOULD FOR THE SAKE OF EXPOSURE. I ADMIRE ONE MAN THAT IS LIVING TODAY AND THAT IS BROTHER DAVID WILKERSON. HE HAS SAID THINGS AND I BELIEVE HE WAS RECEIVING WHAT WAS ON THE LORD'S HEART, BUT I ADMIRE HIM BECAUSE HE ALWAYS COMES BACK AND APOLOGIZES TO THE LORD'S CHURCH AND SPEAKS OF THE MANNER OF THE TONE OF HIS SPIRIT WHEN HE SAYS THINGS. FOR THAT I THINK HE WALKS IN GREAT HUMILITY AND THEREFORE PEOPLE WILL LISTEN AND HEED WHAT HE SAYS RATHER THAN WHEN YOU SAY WORDS THAT ARE HARSH AND UGLY AGAINST THOSE THAT HAVE JESUS IN THEIR HEARTS. WHOSE TO SAY THAT YOUR BROTHER'S AND SISTER'S THAT YOU SPEAK OF ONE DAY WILL EITHER BE AT THE MARRIAGE SUPPER OF THE LAMB WITH YOU OR PERHAPS BOTH WILL BE IN HEAVEN BUT HAVE NO REWARD. I AM EXAMINING MYSELF AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THESE DAYS AND I DESIRE TO KEEP MYSELF WITHIN THE LOVE OF CHRIST.


V. Satterwhite
San Diego, CA


Date: 20 Sep 2005
Time: 08:58:19

Comments:

Just came across your website looking for something else...well, the problem is with authority...there is none in the various protestant churches as I experienced them. I came to see that Christ set up His church through apostolic succession, and I came to understand that the church came before any other authority, and indeed, codified in Holy Scripture, for all time, through letters AND tradition (according to St. Paul)the truth of our Savior. May Christ be with you and bring all men to His truth. Cee


Date: 05 Feb 2006
Time: 17:09:47

Comments:

Benny Hinn has been busted many time before about his many false claims about his life and his ministry, And HE said that He would change, for a short time He did but then went back to his old ways when the money started to dry up... [ He is a wates of time ]

Kennith Copeland just has copied everythign Kenith Hagan taught, Alot of the Faith teachers call him "Dad or Daddy Hagan" { He has also been busted in the past about what he teaches } [ Also a waste of time]

Rod Parsley , The same thing as the other 2 above, Most of it is a Money making joke. [ I've never watsted my time with him ]

Bob Larson Joke from the word go!!!!!!! Been caught in fornication more then once, His little workshops are good for entertainment but that's about it.


I would like to see these faith teachers put there money where there mouth is by sowing a seed of faith in the millions of dollars range [ but you never see that WHY???????]
They know the game, Why is it only they have a secret line to the throne of heaven,Or that they can tell God how to run things or That God only gives them a " Revelation " That changes almost as fast as they change their Pants.But to noone else????
Most Christians want to believe in these guy's, they hold on to every word they say, and oppose any other way of looking at things, If you want to blindly follow thes guy's go ahead it's your life..

But when you can't pay your bills or if you Die from sickness, it all falls on you....


You want better money, Get training and get a better JOB.

You want better Health, Go to the Doctor, live better, eat better,and take care of yourself!!!!!


Date: 11 Mar 2006
Time: 00:43:26

Comments:

These peoples are thieves of who should be placed UNDER the penitentiary. They steal at a level of sophistication that some mafia lords or some successful politicians would envy.


Date: 14 Apr 2006
Time: 13:39:23

Comments:

The Biblical character "LOT" found, I think, either in the New Testament letter "HEBREWS" or one of the two letters of PETER doesn't seem to square with the "LOT" found in the Old Testament book of GENESIS! DO YOUR HOMEWORK BIBLE-BANGERS!!!!


Date: 09 May 2006
Time: 12:20:28

Comments:

I find the teachings from Kenneth Copeland very enlightening.
True, he refers to the teachings of Kenneth Hagan, but he always gives credit to God.
The Holy Spirit is not exclusive to anyone the Holy Spirit is within all of us. I have not heard Kenneth Copeland claim exclusive rights to receiving Gods word; in fact I have heard him say we can all receive Gods word, love and blessings.
God uses all of us to spread his word, and do his work. He uses business men, doctors, lawyers, politicians, and even evangelists. Jesus used fisherman, tax collectors, beggars, thieves and ordinary people. If the teachings from Kenneth Copeland and others open the hearts of more people to the message of God where is the harm? Praise be to God. Thank you for sending your son to save us from sin, Thank you for sending us the Holy Spirit to work through those of your choosing. Thank you for the many blessings you shower on all of us.


Date: 16 May 2006
Time: 18:21:52

Comments:

why do people get offended? If their teachings bug you, don't listen to them. You guys are hating on these teachers becuase they're not perfect? Um, hi, are you perfect? How can we say Jesus died for our freedom, when as soon someone says anything wrong it offends us. Thats rooted in pride. Thats rooted in you always having to be right.

Getting offended is not of God. Its of the enemy. Offense is rooted in anger, and it says in Matthew 5:21-22, "You have heard that the law of Moses says, `Do not murder. If you commit murder, you are subject to judgment.' But I say, if you are angry with someone, you are subject to judgment! If you call someone an idiot, you are in danger of being brought before the high council. And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell."

So if these people offended you, repent from those feelings, and forgive them. If you don't forgive them God will NEVER EVER forgive you for anything in your life (Matt 6:15), becuase why should he forgive you if you can't forgive someone else?

I didn't read this entire page, but I didn't have to. I found nothing wrong with what Kenneth Copeland said on this page at all. I haven't listened to the other listed teachers so I won't talk about them. How about instead of just saying how wrong these people are, you quote them, then say why YOU think they are wrong. Wait, no that wouldn't be right. How about you talk to Holy Spirit, ask Him for the revelations that he gave the speakers when they wrote/preached these things, and then start asking Holy Spirit for scriptures to back them up.


"Only someone completely blinded to the truth of the Bible could believe what these men have said. How dare they presume to speak for God? I pray that God will open all our eyes to what the real truth is, but I know it is definately not what these men are saying!"

How dare they presume to speak for God? Um, ok. We are SUPPOSED TO SPEAK FOR GOD. If we don't, who will? When we speak from the Word of God and share our revelations, to the unsaved its the same as if God were speaking to them. We are to be his instruments! If we don't speak for God, then Satan will come up and speak and everyone will think its God (cough Davinchi trash).

And someone was bashing someone saying they should sow a million dollar seed since they're rich. Maybe they have. They don't have to come out and announce every time they give a large sum of money. Thats the way the world works. Donate $5 million spend $20 million saying how they donated $5 million. And you expect these companies to do the same? Publically state what they've sown?

Why can't preachers (which is ALL of us) drive around in $1000 limo rides? Yeah the parts about them wanting a certain level of money from offerings is strange, I'll have to pray about that. But why can't we drive around in fancy cars? If i see a Pastor of a church driving the most beat up peice of junk car, I won't listen to him. Becuase we have a God who PROVIDES. Not saying we should all have Lamborghinis (sp?), but if you can't be faithfull enough to beleive God for a car that works well, then how can you be faithfull to Pastor a church? Be faithfull with little so we may be a ruler over much

"You want better Health, Go to the Doctor, live better, eat better,and take care of yourself!!!!!"

I agree with that to a degree. If we eat like trash we can't expect to be healthy. The amount of time we spend eating vs the amount of time we spend praying for blessing over our foods don't line up. So we can't eat garbage knowing its garbage and expect it not to hurt us. Thats being dumb, and testing God. But I don't agree with the doctors thing fully. Doctors should be a last resort. If your sick and you make a doctor appointment then pray for healing over your sickness you will NOT be healed. Becuase you doubted Gods word, and you just said to God "if your healing doesn't work I have a backup plan with unsaved people to make me feel better".

If your faith isn't that strong than thats absolutly fine, go see a doctor, you'd be silly not too. But if you beleive God can heal you you will NEVER need a doctor

This is too long, if anyone wishes to discuss anything or comment/question email me at guitar_east@spymac.com

Love

Christopher Sunthgolam
- Belleville, Ontario (Canada)


ate: 18 Jun 2006
Time: 11:26:15

Comments:

Acts 5:34-39 (KJV)
Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space; [35] And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men. [36] For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought. [37] After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed. [38] And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: [39] But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.


Date: 19 Jul 2006
Time: 08:23:25

Comments:

ahh yes revalation knowledge. these men speak the incoruptable, infalible, uncomprimising,soul transforming word of GOD. the word is living and active and has changed me from a religious life of defeat living who and what i am. i give GOD all the praise for the awsome revelation these folks are showing us and GOD is confirming it in his word and through his HOLY SPIRIT. Praise God the sons of GOD are rising and taking a stand for the kingdom of GOD.romans 8v19 "creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of GOD to be revealed" the saints will not contend with dead religion and people who are instruments in satans hand to keep the saints down.i warn you not to speak against the saints, but rather lock yourself in your room and cry out to GOD to show you this revelation in your spirit, because your mind can NOT concieve the things of GOD. GOD is inexhaustable. we saints must grow from glory to glory. growing from revelation to revelation.


Date: 19 Jul 2006
Time: 08:25:39

Comments:

ALL THESE MEN SPEAK TRUTH. IF YOUR MIND CAN NOT GET IT. THEN YOU MUST USE YOU HELMET OF SALVATION


Date: 13 Jan 2007
Time: 17:17:38

Comments:

Rod Parsley is insane. He is also funny to watch because he is so unlearned in theological matters. Only a person who never reads the bible could be taken in by this clown.


Date: 15 Jan 2007
Time: 23:07:36

Comments:

I saw Copeland's program tonight. I don't generally watch him. His daughter, i believe was on telling about the fallin angles. There were so many mis-truths, I lost track. I tried to reach them by e-mail. But they have it rigged so you can't.


Date: 09 Jun 2007
Time: 18:56:37

Comments:

I agree with Christopher Sunthgolam of Belleville, Ontario. The main problem people have is that the Bible speaks truth, and when pastors and evangelists quote the bible, they are quoting truth. BUT, when they go to expalin what the bible contains they are "speaking" Philosophy. Now this can be divine revelation to some people and hersay to others. Sure some things that people say and do may not be right in gods eyes- but that discribes that entire world doesnt it? Its funny that this wbsite didnt quote these preachers saying outright that they are perfect, they already know they are not, and probably dont need some unknown website tearing them down like the Pharisees of old did to the Prophets. In all honesty the things that brings the most division in the body of christ are things just like this website.

In saying that,im not even sure this will make it past the "spam" filter with the comment I just made. XD

Just remember in the same measure we judge, we to will be judged. Thats enough truth to scare anyone.


Date: 20 Jul 2007
Time: 10:26:39

Comments:

I read the whole page of comments. If someone offends you, turn him off. Write down all references, then study them later and see if that is what is meant by the Bible. Many times things are pulled out of context and do not mean what the preachers say.I have left several churches because of this kind of teaching. Leave your pre-conceived ideas and study the Word of God for what it says, not for what you think it says. A concordance is a good way to study for all references pertaining to a subject. I hope you all grow in your faith.


Date: 08 Oct 2007
Time: 18:57:30

Comments:

Jesus said many will come in my name and try to decieve the elect.Like Jude said there will be many false teachers in the end days.When these people join you in fellowship meals celebrating the love of the Lord,they are like dangerous reefs that can shipwreck you.Theyare shameless in the way they care only about themselves.They promice much but produce nothing. Thanks for reading this A brother in Christ 10-8-07


Date: 06 Jan 2008
Time: 17:27:24

Comments:

I PERSONALLY WILL SAY TO U WHAT GOD SAYS ....DONT SPEAK ABOUT HIS ANNOINTED ONES WOE TO THEM WHO DO!.....A FUTURE PREACHER MYSELF!...AND I WILL PREACH AS THE HOLY SPIRIT GUIDES ME 2.......SO WATCH UR WORDS AND GET THY BEHIND ME SATAN!!!!!!FOR WE HAVE THE VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!AND IF U WANT 2 LIVE BROKE BUSTED AND POOR
GO AHEAD
GOD WILL STILL LOVE U ...BUT I WILL NOT LIVE THAT WAY FOR ITS AGAINST DOCTRINE.........


Date: 12 May 2009
Time: 16:13:38

Your Comments:

I think they are all full of it. They ought to try to read what the Bible says instead of what they want it to say.All they want is money and more money.They never say believe in Christ and be baptized for the remission of your sins or have communion every Sunday.There dirt from the holy land and prayer clothes cannot do anything for you or if you give a hundred dollars you will get the house of your dreams. they will have alot to account for on judgement day. God will most likely say I never knew you depart from me.
 


Date: 20 Jun 2009
Time: 22:01:55

Your Comments:

May the Lord have mercy of all this holy spirit men. They are so arrogant. They all ask like a bunch of peddlers in a market in a third world country competing for customer. I have not seen this gospel of in bible.


Date: 21 Jan 2010
Time: 16:28:31

Your Comments:

You have taken a great deal out of context. The quotes form the last two people ae in line with scripture. Don't you know the Word yourself? Furthermore, if you are God's you do not have to spend your time pointing out people's errors, but lifting up Jesus and the Truth in His word. What is not of God will not stand. Remember what Gamaliel said. You save no one with this stuff. You need to preach the gospel, the good news, the law of liberty, faith and love. Jesus did not spend his time criticizing Caesar, Herod,etc. He rebuked false religious leaders to THEIR faces, and He was so right that they could not answer back. His concern was always opening salvation to the people. He was only concerned about those who interfered with HIS message getting through to the hearers. Lift HIM up and HE will draw all men unto Himself.
 


Date: 30 Dec 2010
Time: 11:15:44

Your Comments:

I believe Benny Hinn.God used him to save my life one day.God just doenst send any body ha ha to you unbelievers.If he was false,God would not have sent him.God bless Benny Hinn.They said the same thing about JESUS and wow he then and now is the true lord and savior.So with that said people are going to have something to say.I say try God for yourself and see what God has for you.


Date: 30 Dec 2010
Time: 11:15:44

Your Comments:

I believe Benny Hinn.God used him to save my life one day.God just doenst send any body ha ha to you unbelievers.If he was false,God would not have sent him.God bless Benny Hinn.They said the same thing about JESUS and wow he then and now is the true lord and savior.So with that said people are going to have something to say.I say try God for yourself and see what God has for you.
 


Date: 20 May 2013
Time: 17:00:54

Your Comments:

Heresy, heresy, heresy! This is the fine result of the independent thinking fostered by the Protestant Rebellion. 1 Tim. 3:15 states that there is but one "pillar and ground of truth" which is the Church, not individuals.

When Luther and Calvin fomented rebellion against the Church, they opened the door for every man to think of himself as the ultimate interpreter of Scripture.

THIS is the result.
 


Date: 19 Jun 2013
Time: 15:44:47

Your Comments:

These false prophets and teachers condem themselves with their own words.Its really sad that people who are seeking God are running into these miserable wretches.I have a friend who follows the false teachings of ken copeland and he is convinced that he is the real deal.I went to him twice to expose this false prophet to no avail.I now pray for him.
 

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