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Free Online Books/MP: Andrew Perriman - Narrative-realism, Preterism, and the relevance of scripture / Discussion "Can anyone help me out with a bit of theological jargon and terminology that I’m trying to get my head around? I’ve been reading a fair bit of the articles on Open Source Theology and I keep coming up against, what many of their authors call the ‘narrative-historical argument’ or the ‘narrative-realist’ approach. Andrew Perriman, one of the authors, even describes himself as doing ‘biblical theology after Christendom in a narrative-realist mode’. In reading the various articles however this narrative-realism seems to sound a whole lot like classic preterism. My question for all the budding theologians out there is what is the difference between the two (preterism and the narrative-realist approach)? Or are they pretty much the same thing – in which case this narrative-realist approach is not really all that new. Help me please…" / Milton Terry: Biblical Hermeneutics / F.W. Farrar : The History of Interpretation
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"It has been usual to say that the Spanish Jesuit Alcasar, in his Vestigatio Arcani Sensus in Apocalypsi (1614), was the founder of the Præterist School.. But to me it seems that the founder of the Præterist School is none other than St. John himself." (The Praeterist Interpretation, in The Early Days of Christianity - F.W. Farrar, Chaplain to Queen Victoria, 1871-1876)
MODERN PRETERISM (MP) - A)
Umbrella term covering all those who believe that the majority of Bible prophecy was totally fulfilled in the early centuries of the Christian era. Determined by looking at where authors find a "transition" from the past to the future using the Olivet Discourse of Matthew 24/25 and the Apocalypse of John. Differs from Full Preterism in that it does not make the Parousia, the General Judgment, nor the General Resurrection events solely of the past. B) According to known literature, this class emerged during the Reformation or Counter Reformation and can be seen in a fully developed form at the beginning of the 17th century in the writings of the Jesuit Alcasar -- although many believe that the "Preterist Assumption" seen throughout church history reveals the ancient and medieval equivalents of the Modern Preterist view. (systematized the most notably perhaps in 310 by Eusebius in "Theophany"). This classification includes many who were formerly classified as partial preterists (such as Gary DeMar and Dr. John Brown of Edinburgh) -- as their views are a much more complete presentation of the prophetic fulfillment than those classified in Historical Preterism. C) Teaches that the bulk of Bible eschatology has sole application to ancient Israel, but that some regards the "last day" -- sometimes that "end" being personal, not historical, in nature. Transitions somewhere in Matthew 25, or near the end of the Apocalypse of John.|
Henry Hammond THE FATHER OF ENGLISH EXEGESIS
Upon all the Books
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3/26/9: Gary DeMar: Left Behind: Separating Fact from Fiction - Will Any Actually Be Left Behind? (2009) This is a brand new version of End Times Fiction featuring a new chapter on '"The Remnant," updated statistics, and a larger easy-to-read format!
The Treatifes added to this Addition are these:
A Differtation concerning the Baptism of Infants, on Matth. xxviii. 19. p. 15.
An Answer to Mr. Whifton's Difcourfe, on Matth. xxiv. p. 25.
An Examination of his Difcourfe concerning Abiathar the High Priest, on Mark ii. 36.
A Difcourfe concerning the Imputation of Chrift's perfect Righteoufnefs to us for Righteoufness or Juftification, p. 68
A Defence of a Paffage in the Preface to the Epiflle to the Galatians.
A Difcourfe enquiring whether the Apoftles, in their Writings, spake as conceiving that the Day of Judgment might be in their Days, p. 113.
A Parallel betwixt the Apoftacy of the Jewifh and the Papal Antichrift, p. 119.
Free Online Books: Firmin Abauzit: Discours Historique Sur L' Apocalypse (1770 French PDF) "Abauzit left behind him some writings, chiefly theological. Of these the principal was, an "Essay upon the Apocalypse," written to show that the canonical authority of the book of Revelation was doubtful, and to apply the predictions to the destruction of Jerusalem. This work was sent by the author to Dr. Twells, in London, who translated it from French into English, and added a refutation, - with which Abauzit was so well satisfied, that he desired his friend in Holland to stop an intended impression." (Lange)
Free Online Books: Johann Gottfried von Herder - Mara-natha, das Buch von der Zukunft des Herrn, des Neuen Testaments Siegel [Maran-atha; the Book of the Coming of the Lord: the Seal of the New Testament.] (1799 German PDF) "The historical perspective of this book is, like that of Abauzit, barren and contracted in the extreme: it consists of Jerusalem and the Jewish war. The formal treatment of the Apocalyptic theme, on the contrary, is enthusiastic, full of idealization, and appreciation of the figurative language of the Orient (see Lucke's commendation). Herder called the Apocalypse : "A picture-book, setting forth the rise, the visible existence, and the future of Christ's Kingdom in figures and similitudes of His first Coming, to terrify and to console." (Lange)
Bishop Bielby Porteus - Our Lord's Prophecies Regarding the Siege and Destruction of Jerusalem (1801)
Moses Stuart - Hints on the Interpretation of Prophecy (1842) "The destruction of Jerusalem put an end of course to the Jewish persecuting power in Judea. Consequently the period in which Christianity becomes triumphant over persecution there, is contemporaneous with the destruction of Jerusalem. Nothing can be more clear, than that the period of the two witnesses is the same as that of "treading the holy city under foot by the Gentiles," Rev. 11:2,3. Two witnesses, and but two, are specified, as we may very naturally suppose, because "by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word is established. The sum of Rev. xi. is, then, that the Romans would invade and tread down Palestine for 3 1/2 years, and that Christians, during that period, would be bitterly persecuted and slain ; but still, that, after the same period, the persecution would cease there, and the religion of Jesus become triumphant. The words of the Saviour in Matt. xxiv. compared with the tenor of Rev. xi., seem to lead us plainly and safely to these conclusions." (p. 113)
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Elder Bob Algood - Old Line Primitive Baptist
Bahnsen and Gentry - Reconstructionist
Doug Beaumont Mike F. Blume
David Chilton - (Modern Preterist Works Listed)
Samuel G. Dawson
Jack Van Deventer
Jim Fowler
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F.W. Farrar Chaplain to Queen Victoria, 1871-1876 | Headmaster of Marlborough College | Canon of Westminster Abbey | Rector of St. Margaret’s, Westminster | Archdeacon of Westminster | Dean of Canterbury THE APOCALYPSE | FALL OF JERUSALEM | PRÆTERIST INTERPRETATION
Commentary on New Testament from Talmud and Hebraica
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Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry - Reconstructionist
The Book of Revelation and Eschatology - "I believe that Revelation was written in about A.D. 65. I further believe that it speaks to the original Christian audience regarding difficulties they were facing and in explanation of the coming final removal of Jerusalem by God’s wrath. "
Back to the Future - The Preterist Perspective - "One of the best known and most accessible of the ancient preterists is Eusebius (A.D. 260-340), the "father of church history." In his classic Ecclesiastical History he details Jerusalem's woes in A.D. 70. After a lengthy citation from Josephus's Wars of the Jews, Eusebius writes that "it is fitting to add to his accounts the true prediction of our Saviour in which he foretold these very events" (3:7:1-2.)"
Christ's Resurrection and Ours - "Unfortunately, a new gnosticism is infecting the church: hyper-preterism. One major feature of hyper-preterism is its denial of a future physical resurrection of the believer at the end of history. As we shall see, this contradicts a major result of the resurrection of Christ."
The Spiritual Nature of the Kingdom - "it was just that sort of kingdom (natural) that the first-century Jews wanted and that Christ refused: "When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone" (John 6:15)."
The Beast of Revelation Identified - "Nero and Nero alone fits the bill as the specific or personal expression of the Beast."
Apocalypse Then - "To insist that the events described therein are yet to happen sometime in the future is to do violence to the plain meaning of the phrases "shortly take place," and "the time is near."
"Revelation: Four Views" - Book Review - "David Chiltons Days of Vengeance (despite some flights of fancy, use of astrology, and high liturgy) is an extremely insightful commentary."
Recent Developments in the Eschatological Debate - "A cult-like enthusiasm fuels this unorthodox movement, which teaches that the total complex of end time events transpired in the first-century: the Second Advent, the resurrection, the rapture of the saints, and the great judgment. It is to preterism what hyper-Calvinism is to historic Calvinism: a theological pushing beyond Biblical constraints. This view is not supported by any creed or any council of the church in history."
Henry Hammond - First Generation Modern Preterist
A Paraphrase and Annotations upon all the Books of the New Testament (1653) "Having gone through all the other parts of the New Testament, I came to this last of the Apocalypse, as to a rock that many had miscarried and split upon, with a full resolution not to venture on the expounding of one word in it, but onely to perform one office to it, common to the rest, the review of the Translation: But it pleased God otherwise to dispose of it ; for before I had read (with the design of translating only) to the end of the first verse of the book, these words, which must come to pass presently, had such an impression on my mind, offering themselves as a key to the whole prophecie, (in like manner as, this generation shall not passe till all these things be fulfilled, Matt. 24.34. have demonstrated infallibly to what coming of Christ the whole Chapter did belong) that I could not resist the force of them, but attempted presently a general survey of the whole Book, to see whether those words might not probably be extended to all the prophecies of it, and have a literal truth in them, viz., that the things foretold and represented in the ensuing vision ; were presently, speedily, to come to passe, one after another, after the writing of them."
James B. Jordan - Reconstructionist
The Abomination of Desolation (Three Parts) - "I am taking for granted the fundamental preterist position as set forth by Jay Adams in The Time Is at Hand and by David Chilton in Paradise Restored and Days of Vengeance."
The Future of Israel Re-examined (Three Parts) - "The true sons of Abraham, and of the Biblical Jews, are those who accept the New Covenant. The true owners of the promised land are those who moved into the New Covenant with Jesus, and who set aside Passover and synagogue for something better."
Appearance of the Sign - "The sign of the reigning Christ was seen in the destruction of Jerusalem. The contemporary generation, indicated in verse 34, witnessed fulfillment of these things as Christ had prophesied."
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"ALL PROPHECY IS FULFILLED" Letters of Charles Darwin: "On Saturday evening dined at one of the Colleges, played at bowls on the College Green after dinner, and was deafened with nightingales singing. Sunday, dined in Trinity; capital dinner, and was very glad to sit by Professor Lee ; I find him a very pleasant chatting man, and in high spirits like a boy, at having lately returned from a living or a curacy, for seven years in Somersetshire, to civilised society and oriental manuscripts. He had exchanged his living to one within fourteen miles of Cambridge, and seemed perfectly happy." May 16, 1832
Scholar of a Past Generation
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William Mason
An Examination of the Prophecy Contained in the 24th Chapter of St. Matthew's Gospel (1811 PDF) The design in these sheets is to prove, that the Prophecy of our Saviour refers entirely and exclusively to the destruction of Jerusalem, and not to the end of the World : which, if proved, refutes the grand objection of Infidelity, founded on these words at the conclusion of this Prophecy, "Verily, verily, this generation shall not pass away before all these things be fulfilled."
Duncan McKenzie, Ph.D.
The Supernatural Rulers Portrayed in Daniel and Revelation "How could three physical empires who had been destroyed earlier than the fourth then survive past the destruction of the fourth? The answer is, we are not being shown physical empires; we are being shown confederations of spiritual rulers behind physical empires."
The Covenant Judgments of Revelation "The new heaven and earth in Revelation (and Isaiah) is not heaven. Notice, it still has unrighteous people in it, those outside the New (covenant) Jerusalem (Rev. 22:14-15). The new heaven and new earth is a symbolic representation of the post AD 70 spiritual order of this planet. The old covenant order (the old heaven and earth) flees and the new covenant order (the new heaven and earth) is established (Rev. 20:11; 21:1-2). One has to constantly remember that the truths of Revelation are communicated by way of symbols (Rev. 1:1). In the new heaven and earth hose who are part of the New Jerusalem bride have access to the tree and water of life (Rev. 22:1-2); those outside of the new covenant city do not. "
J.S. Russell's Position on the Millennium, the Neglected Third Way of Preterism "The position of James Stuart Russell offers a third option that is different from full preterism and traditional partial preterism. Russell’s position is essentially like the full preterist position (i.e. the one and only Second Coming, the judgment and the resurrection happened at AD 70, the resurrection having an ongoing fulfillment since AD 70. Russell’s position sees us as currently in the new heaven and earth, a symbol of the post AD 70 new covenant order). Where Russell position is different from full preterism is that it does not hold that all Bible prophecy was fulfilled by AD 70. "
The Serious Error of the Literal Hermeneutic in the Interpretation of the Book of Revelation - "The literalist hermeneutic essentially relies on the criterion of absurdity. If an image is absurd or fantastic it is taken as a symbol, if it is not absurd or fantastic it is taken as a literal physical depiction. This criterion of absurdity of the literalist is overly simplistic, inadequate and just plain wrong."
Babylon was not First-Century Jerusalem - "Seeing the harlot as the old covenant temple system helps to explain Revelation 18:21 (that says Babylon would not rise again). The city of Jerusalem has risen again; the old covenant temple system has not risen again (and won’t). By the way if you look at the merchandise of Babylon (Rev. 18:11-13) it is the items used in the building and offerings of the Temple. The harlot city is dressed in clothes of the high priest. Carrington said the following on the merchandise of Babylon “The long list of merchandise in [Rev.] 18:11-13 is surely a catalogue of materials for building the Temple, and stores for maintaining it.”
Premillennial Preterism - "A Premillennial futurist like Lindsey believes Jesus will return in the future to begin the millennium.A Premillennial preterist like Russell believes that Jesus returned in past (AD 70) and started the millennium at that time."
REVELATION: Fulfillment of the Covenant Curses of Leviticus and Deuteronomy
A New Preterist Perspective - Revelation 12 - "This coming of the one who was to pour out judgment on the desolate was accomplished by the general Titus and the Romans in AD 70. According to this interpretation the last half of Daniels 70th week (3½) was symbolic of the time between the cross, (around AD 30 when sacrifices were no longer valid) and the end of the Jewish age in AD 70, when the consummation was poured out on the desolate, (i.e. Jerusalem and the Temple were destroyed by the Romans)."
Was All Bible Prophecy Fulfilled in A.D.70? - "My short answer to the question of what Luke 21:22 means is that it is saying all things written about the days of vengeance that would come upon the Jews when they violated the covenant would be fulfilled by AD 70. It is not saying that all prophecy in the Bible would be fulfilled by AD 70."
A New Preterist Perspective - "Like full Preterist I see the Second Coming of Jesus as happening in AD 70. Unlike full Preterist I see us as currently being in the millennium (the millennial reign of Jesus beginning at His Second Coming in AD 70, Revelation chapters 19 and 20)"
Ovid Need, Jr. - Unregistered, Independent Baptist
A Review of "The Parousia" and "Beast of Revelation" - "It appears to me that most prophetic teachers fail to realize that prophecy is from the time the passages are written, not from the time they are read."
The Dead Bones - The promise given to David of place of their own, and move no more, is Christ, the Son of David.
Israel Restored - The covenant-promise was that Abraham's seed should be the heir of the world. The promise was not made to Abraham's physical seed, but to his spiritual seed. Through faith in Christ, the Gospel Church is joint-heir with Christ. (Rom. 4:13, 14, 8:17.)
Tongues: A Biblical View - "Tongues (the supernatural ability to speak in a foreign language), as mentioned in Acts and Corinthians, are no longer needed. Their need was fulfilled in 70 A.D. when the judgment which they spoke of came upon Israel; therefore, this supernatural gift is gone. Prophecies and knowledge in the sense which Philip's daughter spoke are gone also, gradually replaced with the more sure word of prophecy and knowledge, the word of God (Acts 21:9). The Apostle John finished the word of God." (1994)
Matthew 24 - Ovid Need, Jr. - "When I realized that an honest examination of Matthew 24 did not confirm Scofield's vision, I had to face facts and change some beliefs. The context of Matthew 24 clearly tells us that Matthew 24 was basically fulfilled in 70 AD. The problem I then had to confront was that if Matthew 24 is basically fulfilled, then many of the theories built on Matthew 24 being future had to be wrong."
A Review of "The Rapture Plot" | A Postscript to "The Death of Victory" | A Lawless Religion: CI Scofield
The Prophecy of Matthew 24 (1754)
John Noē, Ph.D. - Prophecyrefi.org (MP vs FP View: Many comings of Christ, and no singular "Second Coming in AD70")
An Exegetical Basis for a Preterist-Idealist Understanding of the Book of Revelation (2007) “The revelation of Jesus Christ” (Rev 1:1) has a fuller significance and deeper character beyond its AD 70 eschatological fulfillment. Consequently, the preterist notion that it only applies to AD 70 when Christ supposedly came in “finality” is a weakness to be amended. And in a preterist-idealist synthesis, the strength of idealism remains that it “secures its relevance for all periods of the church’s history.” But its major weakness—i.e. “its refusal to see a firm historical anchorage”— is removed. That missing anchorage is supplied by Revelation’s A.D-70 fulfillment."
Restoring the Kingdom-of-God Worldview to the Church and the World (2004) "To be presented at the 49th annual meeting of the Midwest Region of the Evangelical Theological Society on the campus of Lincoln Christian College and Seminary, Lincoln, Illinois, March 19-20, 2004. The conference theme is: “Taking Every Thought Captive to Christ: Theology and the Formation of a Christian Worldview.”
What About Paul's Man of Sin? (2003) "In dramatic paralleled fashion, Scripture gives this "man of sin" John of Gischala, the son of Levi- the name of" the one doomed to destruction" or "the son of perdition," the same name given to another infamous betrayer, Judas Iscariot (compare Jn. 17:12 with 2Th. 2:3 KJV). Both appeared in the same "last days" time frame of the Old Covenant age. Judas betrayed Jesus. John of Gischala betrayed the Jews, fulfilling Paul's "man of sin" prophecy to a tee. "
Armageddon: Past or Future? (2003) "Armageddon is coming April 8th! According to proponents, that’s the publicized date when it will be “unleashing everywhere” and “no one will escape!” The only question now being asked by a multi-media promotional campaign is, “Are you prepared for Armageddon?"
12 Most Common Mistakes People Make About Bible Prophecy and the Endtimes
The Only Defense in the Major Case Against Christ, Christianity, and the Bible."
Arthur M. Ogden
Dating the Book of Revelation - "The final destruction of Jerusalem came in 70 A.D. God's purposes and plans were all in place by this time. Nothing remained to be done."
Dr. John Owen - Puritan
On 'the Heavens and the Earth' - 2 Pet. iii. 7 (1721) - "The heavens and earth that God Himself planted, -the sun, moon, and stars of the Judaical polity and church, -the whole old world of worship and worshippers, that stand out in their obstinacy against the Lord Christ, shall be sensibly dissolved and destroyed."
Dealing with (Parousia) Delay: A critique of Christian coping - "The Roman destruction of the Jewish temple in the Jewish war of 66-70 CE alone satisfies the temporal requirements for the imminency of the parousia and the historical requirements for the transformation of relations wrought by God ushering in a new reality of the church as the kingdom of God. "
The Meeting in the Air (I Thess 4:17) - "The meeting in the air is not a literal rapture of believers, but a symbolic depiction of the final battle of Christ and the powers of darkness which oppose him and his people. Paul responds by declaring that Christ will come with those departed believers, demonstrating that they have been and will remain his; they and the angelic hosts come to behold the final battle which Christ wages with the powers of darkness inhabiting the air."
Jesus the Preterist: A Review of Sproul's Last Days "Material continuity with the person prior to death has certainly been the predominant view of the resurrection body throughout Christian history. Both the body and the soul of the one who rises are therein viewed as necessary to insure that the risen one is numerically the same individual. Personal identity is thus secured when God recollects the scattered matter, miraculously reconstitutes it in a human body, and reunites it with the soul. The problems attending the view of personal identity as a recollection of scattered matter are, of course, significant. The most obvious is the perennial concern raised as to how human material which has long since biodegraded into the dust and become part of the grass which is eaten by the cows which has been consumed by subsequent generations of human beings can be recollected."
Preterism and the Question of Heresy - "Orthodox faith and orthodox doctrines are those that honor God rightly," whereas "heresy" refers to the false doctrine of those who "have abandoned the faith" and move others to do the same. [82] If heresy has to do with a denial of the principle that God has provided redemption in Christ, as McGrath says, it is hard to understand how preterism can be viewed as a heresy, for it affirms "the orthodox faith and orthodox doctrines" in all points as expressed in the great creeds and confessions while endeavoring to "honor God rightly" by insisting that the consummation of God's redemptive purpose in Christ's parousia has not been frustrated or postponed, but rather accomplished according to the clear chronology set forth in the NT. Preterists believe this evidence is so compelling that they are willing to suffer the accusations and condemnations of others in their effort to affirm the words of the apostle Paul: "let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written: 'So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge'" (Rom 3:4).
Bishop Bielby Porteus - Dividing Line Between Destruction of Jerusalem and General Judgment: Matthew 25:31
- French Freethinker | "Six Seal Preterist"LAntechrist (1871)
The Life of Jesus (1861)
Apocalypse of the Gospels - Making the connection between the Olivet Discourse and the Book of Revelation (1898) - . (PreteristArchive Addition to Web!)
BIBLICAL APOCALYPTICS | Preface | Introduction - Focuses on the Prophetic portions of Scripture (1898)
BIBLICAL HERMENEUTICS - Textbook in many colleges - Almost fully Pret | "A treatise on the Interpretation of the Old and New Testament" (1890)
BIBLICAL DOGMATICS - The Doctrine of the Resurrection (Pages 212 – 251) Adam Clarke thus comments: "I do not think that he refers to the resurrection of the body, but to the resurrection of the soul in this life; to the regaining of the image which Adam lost." (1907)
Continuous Development of the Kingdom of Christ "It is not said that we must all appear at one and the same moment before the judgment seat of Christ. This second appearing of Christ, apart from sin, to them that wait for him unto salvation, as well as the judgment here spoken of, is something to come to each man after death. Thus in a very true and holy sense were they caught away to a meeting of the Lord in the air. Such a departing to be with Christ is not to be deemed incompatible with the Lord's coming to receive them unto himself. And this glorious process is continually going on, and has been since the time when Stephen saw the heavens opened, and beheld the glory of God, That day is the day or time of his departure (ver. 6). For why should we commit this scripture to the notion that even now, after nearly two thousand years, Paul is still waiting and longing for the crown of righteousness!"
Ralph Woodrow
70 Weeks - Future or Fulfilled? - "With Adam Clarke we say: "The whole of this prophecy from the times and corresponding events has been fulfilled to the very letter." (Clarke's Commentary, note on Daniel 9)."
Matthew 24 - Future or Fulfilled? - "By 70 A. D., the gospel had gone forth to the world for a witness. No longer was God's message to man be confined to one nation or race!"
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