The major differences between full
preterism and every other belief system are not shown conclusively in
scripture. They have to be derived from associating scriptures that are not
conclusively shown in scripture to be associated.
Full preterism teaches that the resurrection of 1 Cor. 15 is not physical,
but non-physical, due to an error they propose in assuming a resurrected
"spiritual body" is not physical. In reality, an immortal, physical body is
"spiritual". Natural laws of science cannot explain how He had
wounds that formerly killed Him when He walked out of the tomb and lived. He
resurrected from the dead! How natural is that? It is "spiritual"! It is
not a matter of being non-physical when we read the term "spiritual".
Spiritual things can be quite physical. Angels. Burning bushes that are not
consumed. Miracles. It's a contrast from natural law, and is
SPIRITUAL law. And that is the context of the concept of Natural vs.
Spiritual in 1 Cor 15. So, in this context, it is not physical vs.
non-physical but natural physical vs. spiritual physical. FP's made the
mistake of thinking anything "spiritual" is "non-physical" and that is not
the case at all. It's just something physical that is
We are not reading a contrast in 1 Cor. 15 between the
physical and the
would imply the spiritual is
non-physical. If it was physical vs. spiritual, then that would be a
contrast of material used in the body -- physical matter vs. non-physical
matter. But it is a contrast from
that means the bodies are physical in both cases. Natural physique and
Men today are considered in the same book of 1 Cor in chapter 2 as being
either "natural" or "spiritual" as well.
1Co 2:13-15 Which things also we
speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy
Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. (14) But
man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are
foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are
spiritually discerned. (15) But
he that is
spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
Is that speaking about compositional material? Of course not. It is speaking
of natural inclination vs. spiritual inclination.
It's speaking of motivation. Not composite material.
Jesus Christ's body was
not natural when it came out of the tomb. But it was still physical.
A mortal body is
natural. Nature produces mortal bodies. Nature cannot produce an
immortal body, though. An immortal physical body is not natural, but
spiritual. That is the proper
1 Cor. 15 said whatever
body Jesus had when He came out of the tomb is the sort of body we
will have in the resurrection. Redemption is a term applicable to various
things. We are presently redeemed from sin. Paul said our bodies will be
redeemed, and that is surely evident due to the struggle within our bodies
with sin. And since this struggle still continues, I take this as evidence
our bodies are not yet redeemed.
You see, the leap towards having faith that the redemption of the body has
already occurred is far greater than the step to realize that our bodies are
our bodies. In fact it's too great a leap, and becomes assumption. The
thoughts of what happened to Christ must be
assumed, since scripture says
nothing about it. If our bodies have been redeemed, as full preterism
states, then there are too many gaps in this thought that are never answered
For example, what happened to Jesus ' physical body after it ascended? It
must not exist any more, since full preterism proposes a spiritual body is
not physical, and if Jesus' physical body still exists we see the entire
concept broken. His physical existence would demand a physical resurrection
of our bodies.
Also, this requires 1 Cor 15 to be fulfilled already. And that means Jesus
Christ no longer rules on the throne. This chapter states the Son of God
rules until all enemies are beneath
his feet. If all enemies are now beneath His feet, then He is no longer
Also, satan must be going to exist forever on earth influencing men and
women forever, since Rev 20 is fulfilled, and what is now the case for the
devil will always be the case for the devil -- i.e. running throughout the
world forever influencing men and women. Full preterism sees no end to this
influence from satan!
Not only that, but the scripture that teaches the meek shall inherit the
earth will never be fulfilled, since there will be both sinners and saints
forever on the earth. Sinners will never be removed.
Also, we are told God's will must be done in earth as it is in heaven.
There is no sin in heaven. This cannot be fulfilled in earth if full
preterism is correct. Full preterism must conclude that sin will always
And this leads to another conclusion. And this one scares me the most, and
no full preterist whom I know has ever been able to respond to it yet. Adam
brought sin into the world. And while Romans 5 states Christ's work of
obedience done above and beyond the degree of influence that Adam's
disobedience accomplished, full preterism makes this untrue. Full Preterism
must conclude the sin that Adam brought into the world is, at best, ONLY
SUPPRESSED by Believers.
Sin is in our flesh. Even after we are saved. And that is why Paul said he
kept his body "under", lest sin arise, as it did in his past according to
Romans 7. That is one reason why I claim our bodies are
not redeemed yet. Sin is in our
flesh. We struggle daily with it. We can suppress it by walking after the
Spirit, but that is the greatest victory we can have according to full
preterism, until we die. And saints will live and die forever according to
full preterism, and yet they say death is already destroyed.
There is the church in heaven and the church in the earth. We are all one
body called the church. But the saints in heaven are free of their sinful
flesh. The saints in earth are not. And full preterism implies these two
elements of the church will never converge and come together to one day no
longer see this distinction. Partial preterism, and every other prophetic
belief, teaches one day this life in flesh that houses sin will cease. Our
actual bodies will change from physical mortal ones to physical immortal
ones, like Christ's did in the tomb. At that point, sin will no longer
exist in our bodies. The saints in heaven will also receive immortal bodies
(2 Cor 5). They will not be left as "naked" souls and spirits without
bodies. It is then that the church in heaven and the church in earth both
experience the reception of an immortal, incorruptible body. And satan will
be put out of the way once and for all, and Adam's sin will not even exist
any more... not in our flesh nor any sinners' flesh, because sinners will be
removed once and for all and the saints shall truly inherit the earth.
Partial preterism says Adam's sin will be removed totally, and not merely
suppressed forever, which agrees with Romans 5's assertion that Christ's
work of obedience went above and beyond the influence of Adam's
Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek:
for they shall inherit the earth.
Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy
will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Psalm 37:28 For the LORD loveth
judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but
the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
Psalm 37:38 But the transgressors
shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off.
Proverbs 2:21-22 For the upright
shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it. (22) But
the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall
be rooted out of it.
Truthfully, the cross accomplished the finished work. Time only stands
between the cross and the bringing down of all enemies, with death as the
last one to be brought down. Death has been dealt a fatal blow at the cross.
It now staggers in the flesh of believers due to the cross in saints who
know how to yield to the Spirit and not fulfill lusts of the flesh. But
Christ sits and waits on His throne for all enemies to be put under His feet
practically. Positionally this is already so. He is seated, and we are
seated with Him, above all powers in this world and the world to come. But
practically this will occur when enemies in this world are brought to
nothing. Then He ceases to rule.
But His work on the cross dealt the blow already! Hebrews 9 and 10 contrasts
ministers who stand forever doing a
work that is never fulfilled. In contrast, Christ
sits! The work is done. And since
He sits expecting His enemies to be
made His footstool, He knows the work on the cross dealt the blow that will
see all enemies finally fall under His feet, practically. It's as though He
dealt every enemy force a blow at the cross, and went to sit on His throne,
and simply expect by
waiting for that single Blow to
bring them down. What a blow! 2000 years ago the cross dealt this fatal
blow. And it still ripples through
time, as Christ still knows it will
eventually bring down every enemy! And it therefore affects every enemy to
this day, and it took place 2000 years ago! AWESOME GOD!
Full preterism's blow from the cross is not at all fatal. Sin will forever
exist. Satan will forever influence men and women in the earth. Adam's sin
was introduced into the world and will never be removed. What a weak cross
full preterism proposes!
Hebrews 10:11-13 And every priest
standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices,
which can never take away sins: (12) But this man, after he had offered
one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; (13)
From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
Let's compare futurism with
In regards to resurrection, Full
preterism is far different than ANY view, let alone partial preterism. I
think that makes full preterism unreasonable. The nature of the resurrection
is such a major view in the scope of prophecy, and an important one in
general thought of salvation, that FP has crossed the line. (No offense to
full preterists). I would sooner be full futurist than full preterist so as
not to abandon the plain reading of the physical resurrection. But it seems
futurism and full preterism are simply extremes surrounding the reality.
Compare the two options of major
errors in futurism and full preterism:
(1) No physical resurrection in 1 Cor
15 (full preterism)
(2) Overlooking the OT prophetic
Language found in Matthew 24, so as to miss the AD70 tribulation and coming
of Christ in destruction. (futurism)
Although I am convinced both are
wrong, if I had a choice between the above two, I would far sooner choose #2
as my faith rather than #1. In other words, it is far more reasonable to
stand by #2 than #1, since the physical resurrection is so obvious in 1 Cor
15. When one considers the difference between the two of totally confusing
the meaning of resurrection in 1 Cor 15 with simply missing the timing of
Matt 24, the timing issue is not so severe as the other. To reinterpret
plain language in 1Cor 15 in order to make full preterism fit is beyond me.
I honestly believe nobody would ever get the full preterist explanation of 1
Cor 15 upon reading it, without the compulsion to make an invisible
resurrection occur in Matt 24. All full preterists, in my experience in
talking to them, reinterpret the plain reading of 1 Cor 15 for the sole
purpose of making it fit, since there cannot be a physical resurrection in
our future if there was an invisible resurrection in AD70. "If the early
saints did not get one in AD70, then how could we in our future?" they
It's more understandable to miss the
OT prophetic language in Matt 24 than it is to reinterpret the resurrection
in 1 Cor 15. Missing Matt 24 is simply careless oversight of prophetic
language, and a trend to simply keep in line with popular view and what was
taught to us, since most of us were taught futurism as apostolics. (Not many
change views on ANYTHING they first believed. The more open minded folks
pray for correction if there need be any). But proposing no physical
resurrection is more serious than that.
In summary, Full preterism's error is
distortion of plain scripture. Futurism's error is in careless oversight of