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Gary DeMar shows the failure of John Murray's "Historical Idealism"
(Contrasted with Modern Idealism - the native hermeneutic of PreteristArchive.com.  MI is to Historical Idealism as HP is to HyP.)

Church-State Relations and the Book of Revelation By Todd Dennis, Curator
 (Futurist: 1979-1996; Full Preterist: 1996-2006; Idealist: 2006-Eis tous aionios ton aionion)

Preterist-Idealism: The Wintery Flight (1876) "All who believed in Jesus Christ remembered what He had said, and left their homes hurriedly, and fled to a little town called Pella, on the other side of the river Jordan. Not one Christian perished in the siege of Jerusalem. The Jews who had refused to believe in Jesus, trusted to their strong walls, and their weapons, and stayed in the city..  Now, my children, I have not told you these things only as a chapter of history. I want you to learn some very important lessons from these words. For us there is an escape, a flight, to be undertaken, and for us there is a place of refuge like Pella. "

Escape from Tribulation: Jerusalem as Type
We must all through tribulation enter the kingdom // God is faithful, will with the temptation also make a way to escape

"These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world"

John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. // 2 Tim 2:22 Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart. (KJV)

 

By Summa Scriptura

Luke 21:20-24, "When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, and let those who are inside the city depart, and let not those who are out in the country enter it, for these are days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written. Alas for women who are pregnant and for those who are nursing infants in those days! For there will be great distress upon the earth and wrath against this people. They will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive among all nations, and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled." (ESV)

In this passage Jesus seems to say two things which contradict. He says, "when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies," then "let those who are inside the city depart". It would seem impossible to flee from the city if one waits until they see the city has become surrounded by armies. But Jesus evidences prophetic foreknowledge of a particular chain of events which would only become clear later. In 67 AD, the land of Israel was under siege by Roman forces under Vespasian. Vespasian's troops were laying waste to the country driving the refugees toward Jerusalem which was to become the kill spot. Events in Rome prevented this. Vespasian withdrew, and for more than two years the Jews were able to regroup. James was martyred slightly before or during this period. Tradition tells us the Jewish-Christians took heed to Christ's warning and removed to Pella. In 70 AD, Vespasian was Emperor and the Roman forces returned under Titus. Jerusalem was destroyed.

If I had been there listening to Jesus teaching and he opened the subject for discussion and questions, it would not have been a stupid question if I asked, "Jesus, when Jerusalem is surrounded by armies, how can people flee from the city?" Jesus would not have been wrong if he replied, "Your heavenly Father will provide the way."

Luke 21:34-36, "Watch yourselves lest your hearts be weighed down with dissipation and drunkenness and cares of this life, and that day come upon you suddenly like a trap. For it will come upon all who dwell on the face of the whole earth. But stay awake at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are going to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man." (ESV)

In this passage Jesus seems to say two things which contradict. He says, if the time of consummation comes upon you unexpectedly "the day [will] come upon you like a trap", and he says "it will come upon all who dwell on the face of the whole earth" and he says stay awake in order to "have strength to escape all these things that are going to take place". It would seem impossible to escape all these things if it will come upon all who dwell on earth. Jesus is again evidencing prophetic foreknowledge of a particular chain of events which will become clear later.

If I had been there listening to Jesus teaching and he opened the subject for discussion and questions, it would not have been a stupid question if I asked, "Jesus, if the Great Tribulation will come upon all who dwell upon the earth, how can my staying awake enable my escape?" Jesus would not have been wrong if he replied, "Your heavenly Father will provide the way."

I Corinthians 10:13 "There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it."
 

And there was great joy amongst them,
And they blessed and glorified and extolled
Because the name of that Son of Man had been revealed unto them.

And he sat on the throne of his glory,
And the sum of judgement was given unto the Son of Man,
And he caused the sinners to pass away and be destroyed from off the face of the earth,
And those who have led the world astray.

With chains shall they be bound,
And in their assemblage-place of destruction shall they be imprisoned,
And all their works vanish from the face of the earth.
And from henceforth there shall be nothing corruptible;

For that Son of Man has appeared,
And has seated himself on the throne of his glory,
And all evil shall pass away before his face,
And the word of that Son of Man shall go forth
And be strong before the Lord of Spirits. ~ Enoch 69:26-29

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