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Todd Dennis - Matthew 16:27-28 is NOT a "Preterist Time Indicator" pointing to AD70

Warning: "Full Preterist" material is being archived for balanced representation of all Christian Preterist views, but its premise is deemed by the opinion of the curator (a former full preterist) to be "toxic theology."   Due to its brash and "letter-based" appeal  to the flesh and "things seen," it very subtly draws people away from the truth of the Spirit and His "unseen things" (core components of the system being extra-biblical history and logic -- because there is not one full preterist verse which looks back to fulfillment in ad70, it is based entirely upon deductive reasoning).  If you have already adopted this viewpoint, please seriously consider that according to full preterism, AD70 was not only the end of Old Testament Judaism, but it was also the end of the revelation of Christianity as seen in the New Testament.  This is done by teaching that AD70 was a "dispensational line" regarding resurrection and the like which makes the Christianity of the New Testament fundamentally different from that of today.  Please also note that the earliest known adherents of full preterism later abandoned it, as have many contemporary former full preterists, including the curator of this archive (after a decade of promotion).  The article which follows is deemed "hyper preterist" in nature -- so please proceed with extreme caution.  If this article is not "full preterist," please notify me and I will have it reclassified.


(Full) "Preterism is an interpretive system that is locked on the events of 66-70 A.D." Sam Frost, "Observations"

Hyper Preterist (HyP) Study Archive: Critical Articles on HyP | Defining "Hyper Preterism" | Former Full Preterists | Full Preterism Against Itself | Progressive Preterism | Regressive Preterism | Preterist Universalism
 


"But the angel said to me, “Why do you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of the woman"

Here is my plainest assessment of the form of danger inherent in Hyper-Preterism, in terms that any seasoned Preterist should be able to understand:

The valor and determination of Full Preterists to conquer error is reminiscent of the Roman soldiers who first came upon Jerusalem, and who, simplistically seeing an opening overzealously charged up to her very gates, only to find themselves suddenly surrounded on all sides (with Providence alone saving the life of Titus).  Full Preterism, driven by its initial sincere and noble desire in the pulling down of Futurist error, has charged too hard and far in the setting up of perceived truth, having incorrectly assessed the situation due to the speed of attack, and the pride that always comes with easy victories.   There is no question that Jerusalem's history is rich with theological wealth and meaning ; however, she was - and will always be - a deadly harlot who betrays those who succumb to her alluring charms.  If you approach too closely to her she will strike you like the serpent she is -- and her poison goes straight to the heart.  Please consider my decade of leadership experience in forming and shaping the online movement -- and my observation of countless people in this situation -- by accepting at face value my warnings for what they are - sincere attempts to help .   If you have gotten too close to the harlot, having lost your senses in wonderment (as did John prior to being rebuked), AWAKEN AT ONCE while you are still able !!  Set your eyes upon the spotless bride instead of the filthy whore, and you will be saved to carry on the battle with the Banner of Truth.

SOME DISTINCTIVE DOCTRINES OF TYPICAL FULL PRETERISM

  • All Bible Prophecy was Fulfilled By AD70

  • "The Consummation of the Ages" Fulfilled in AD70

  • "The Millennium" is in the Past, From AD30 to AD70

  • "This Age" was the Mosaic Age Which Ended in AD70

  • "The Age to Come" Arrived Historically in AD70

  • "The New Heavens and Earth" Arrived in AD70

  • "The Day of the Lord" was Israel's Destruction in AD70

  • "The Second Coming of Jesus"  Took Place in AD70

  • "The Resurrection" is Over, Having Taken Place in AD70

  • "Mystery Babylon" was First Century Jerusalem

  • The Law, Death, Sin, Devil, Hades, etc. were Utterly Destroyed in AD70

"Hearken unto me now therefore, O ye children, and attend to the words of my mouth. Let not thine heart decline to her ways, go not astray in her paths. For she hath cast down many wounded: yea, many strong men have been slain by her.  Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death. "

 

Articles Critical of Hyper Preterism


  • C. Michael Patton: Is the Hyper-Preterist Gospel a Different Gospel? (2008) "During this program I said that hyper-preterism is definitely unorthodox, finding its antithetical opposite affirmed from the earliest Christianity until now by all traditions of Christianity (Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant). All Christians have always affirmed that Christ’s return, the resurrection of the dead, judgment, and the new heavens and earth are yet future, even if we disagree about the details. However, I also said on the program that while this doctrine is an unorthodox or heretical view of eschatology, it is not a doctrine that is damnable in the sense that if one believes it, they are, by definition, not Christian.. I am beginning to seriously reconsider."

  • Keith Mathison: The Shape of Sola Scriptura (2001) "An important point that must be kept in mind is observed by the great ninteenth-century Princeton theologian Samuel Miller. He noted that the most zealous opponents of creeds "have been those who help corrupt opinions".. Another heresy that has been widely promoted with the assistance of the modern Evangelical version of solo scriptura is hyper-preterism" (Full book available online at Google)   "while there are numerous internal squabbles over details, in general advocates of this doctrine insist that Jesus Christ returned in A.D.70 at the destruction of Jerusalem and that at that time sin and death were destroyed, the Adamic curse was lifted, Satan was cast into the lake of fire, the rapture and general resurrection occurred, the final judgment occurred, mourning and crying and pain were done away with, and the eternal state began."

  • Thomas Whittemore: A Commentary on the Revelation of St. John, the Divine (1848) "For our part, we are willing to confess, that if a man believes the Apocalypse was not written until after the destruction of Jerusalem, and if he believes in the common notions concerning the day of God's wrath, the judgment of the dead, the great dragon, the bottomless pit, &c., &c., he cannot understand the book. He will be continually hampered by his pre-conceived system ; and, in harmony with such a system, no probable interpretation can be given. Although Professor Stuart has produced an excellent work upon the Apocalypse, — the most consistent and valuable, we think of any we've have ever seen, — yet he was manifestly troubled and warped in his judgment in interpreting certain parts by his theological system, or creed, especially his belief in endless misery, and the popular notions of a future judgment. "

 


Known Former Full Preterists


LATEST ADDITIONS

  • D. Anderson  (Will release full name when paper made available) "It may come as a shock to some, but I no longer hold to the FP position and no, Lloyd, nor Rod can be held to ridicule here for my change but they both have made some valid points that have complimented my study.. I do have a scriptural response and I'll share it privately with some and then publicly when I get it on paper but in the meantime, I'm still in study.  I've been seeing some problems for a while and have finally taken the time to search it out.  While FP has straightened out much, it is not the end all imho."

    • Full Preterist Response: "I will say the same thing about you that I did Roderick.  I pointed out how there is no middle ground and that Roderick's heart would eventually get harder from his sin of rejecting and compromising the Word of God.  That is the road you are on.. And because of this, reading you (like Roderick) will end up being a complete waist of anyone's time."

  • Former Full Preterists : P.S. Desprez: Analogy between the Apocalypse of the Old Testament and that of the New (1865 PDF) - Another Post-Hyper Work

  • Former Full Preterists: Jared Coleman - In defense of an atheistic morality "I’ve been having some fun conversing with several of my Christian friends about the basis for a godless morality. Many Christians think that there can be no such legitimate basis. They fear that the loss of an objective and absolute moral standard will result in complete moral subjectivity and relativity. I understand this fear because such a world would be a dreadful place indeed. Fortunately, this is a false dichotomy, and there is a middle way."

  • Todd Dennis - Matthew 26:64 is NOT a "Preterist Time Indicator" Pointing to AD70 "In short, the usage of "Apo Arti" in Matthew 26:64 [Apo ("from" - Strongs 575) and Arti ("now on" - Strong's 737)] is highly suggestive of the themes that have been previously offered at this blog ; that is, a series of revelatory recognitions of the power and glory of Jesus Christ's dominance by friend and foe alike. Though the typically pret-friendly Weymouth translation would like to make Jesus say "later on, you will see.." this is not really honest. I would rather say that it was simply a mistake, but I find it impossible to believe that neither Richard Francis Weymouth ("If this belief ever obtains general acceptance the earlier date of the Apocalypse will also be regarded as fully established. For it will then be seen that the book describes beforehand events which took place in 70 A.D.") nor Earnest Hampden-Cook (co-editor and author of "The Christ Has Come") were aware of the importance of this passage regarding their Preterist assumptions. However, not only is there no sense of futurity in this very emphatic Greek phrase, but rather we

On "Full Preterism"

Jay Adams (2003)
"Frost goes on to write, "If the Second Coming really did occur in A.D.70, does this damage the integrity of the church, he history and her claim to know the truth?"  The (Orthodox Preterist) answer?  Absolutely.   The vast majority of biblical exegetes have clearly taught the doctrines that (Unorthodox Preterists) reject.  If UPs are correct, it would mean that the Bible-believing church would have been deluded or deceived for most of its history, and Christians would have truly entertained a "misplaced hope." (Preterism: Orthodox or Unorthodox, pp. 2,3)

"Because UPs are right in many of their interpretations, and because in these they have good exegesis on their side, they have become cocky about the interpretation of other passages in which they show shoddy and forced exegesis to support untenable teachings." (Preterism: Orthodox or Unorthodox, p. 4)

Kenneth Gentry
"("Hyper" Preterism)...goes too far by extending valid observations gathered from temporally confined judgment passages (texts including such delimitations as ‘soon’ and ‘at hand’) to passages that are not temporally constrained and that actually prophesy the future advent of Christ." (
Tabletalk magazine, January 1999, p.56)

"Before I begin my analysis and critique, however, I must make very clear my orthodox convictions regarding biblical eschatology. I pause to do so because a new, unorthodox movement has arisen that confuses many Christians regarding orthodox preterism. This new movement largely arises from within Church of Christ (Campbellite) circles; indeed, the two main publishing sources of the movement are run by present or former Campbellites (though, like any good cult-like movement, it is widening its net and drawing followers from other sources). This movement asserts that A.D. 70 witnesses the fulfilling of ALL eschatological prophecy. This mutant form of preterism goes too far, for it denies a future Second Advent of Christ; a future, bodily resurrection of the dead; and other historic, orthodox doctrines of the Christian faith." (An Introductory Disclaimer)

"Unfortunately, a new gnosticism is infecting the church: hyper-preterism. One major feature of hyper-preterism is its denial of a future physical resurrection of the believer at the end of history. As we shall see, this contradicts a major result of the resurrection of Christ. Before I demonstrate this, I must briefly summarize the argument for Christ's physical resurrection, which is the effective cause of our own future resurrection. " (Christ's Resurrection and ours)

Kenneth L. Gentry  Jr.
"First, hyper-preterism is heterodox. It is outside the creedal orthodoxy of Christianity. No creed allows any second Advent in A. D. 70. No creed allows any other type of resurrection than a bodily one. Historic creeds speak of the universal, personal judgment of all men, not of a representative judgment in A. D. 70. It would be most remarkable if the entire church that came through A. D. 70 missed the proper understanding of the eschaton and did not realize its members had been resurrected! And that the next generations had no inkling of the great transformation that took place! Has the entire Christian church missed the basic contours of Christian eschatology for its first 1900 years?" (Brief Theologial Analysis of Hyper-Preterism)

Scott Hahn
"I was originally attracted by Max King and J. S. Russell, but subsequently rejected their view that 70 AD exhaustively fulfills NT prophecy. Personally, I have come to conclude that the main error of "hyper-preterism" is based on the common failure to recognize the theological significance of the biblical (and ancient Jewish) view of Israel's temple as a "microcosm" (i.e., the cosmos in miniature), which implies that the cosmos itself was seen as a "macro-temple" (see Ps 104, Job 38).  Accordingly, the divinely decreed destruction of the Jerusalem (microcosmic) temple was itself a typological event, one that foreshadows the future destruction of the cosmos (i.e., as macro-temple). The destruction of the Jerusalem temple is thus a true -- but partial -- fulfillment, which implies a partial non-fulfillment, thus pointing to a still greater fulfillment in the future, when the cosmos undergoes the same divinely decreed destruction as the Jerusalem temple. An integral interpretation of NT prophetic texts is rooted in the scriptural view of creation, set forth in terms of temple typology (see Hebrews 9:1-12). What happens to the temple must eventually happen to the cosmos; the resurrected body of Christ is the New Temple, which will be fully manifested in glory only when the old cosmos undergoes the same transformative judgement of God, thus bringing forth a New Creation -- which the Apocalypse rightly describes as the Divine Temple (Rev. 11:18ff) of the New Jerusalem (Rev. 21:22)." (comments, ca-anathema, 2003)

Tommy Ice
"EXTREME preterists, or consistent preterists, as they prefer to be known as, hold that all future Bible prophecy was fulfilled in the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70. If there is a future second coming, they say, the Bible does not talk about it. Extreme preterists believe that there is no future bodily resurrection, which place them outside the realm of Christian orthodoxy." (Has Bible Prophecy Been Fulfilled?)

Tim LaHaye
"those who teach Christ came physically in A.D. 70 are borderline heretics"
(End Times Controversy, p. 10)

Robert Mounce
"The major problem with the preterist position is that the decisive victory portrayed in the latter chapters of the Apocalypse was never achieved. It is difficult to believe that John envisioned anything less than the complete overthrow of Satan, the final destruction of evil, and the eternal reign of God. If this is not to be, then either the Seer was essentially wrong in the major thrust of his message or his work was so hopelessly ambiguous that its first recipients were all led astray"  (The Book of Revelation, 1977, 27)

Gary North
"I recommend the immediate public recantation and personal repentance of Russell's theology (Full Preterism). Barring this, I recommend the heretic's excommunication by his church's judicial body.  The elders should allow the accused member to identify the heresy for which he is then excommunicated." (
David Chilton, R.I.P.)

"I would suggest that we not encourage (David Chilton's) heresy by interacting with him on this matter on this or any other forum.  It is now a matter of Church discipline, assuming that he is under any." (North on Chilton)

"We can and should pray for the restoration of his mind, but to debate with him publicly will almost certainly drive him deeper into this heresy. He will feel compelled to defend himself in public. Let him go in peace. It is not our God-given task to confront him at this point. That is for his local church to do."  (North on Chilton)

"Church officers who learn of any member's commitment to the doctrine of "full preterism" have an obligation to help this member clarify his or her thinking, and either become fully consistent with the full-preterist position or else fully abandon it. The member should be brought before the church's session or other disciplinary body and asked the following six questions in writing:"

"the member must also be asked to sign an affirmation of Chapter XXXIII of the Westminster Confession of Faith and answer 90 of the Larger Catechism. This signed statement constitutes a formal rejection of the "full preterist" position. The member must be told in advance that this signed statement can be shown to others at the discretion of the session. If the member refuses to sign such a statement under these conditions, the elders should continue the disciplinary process."

"There are only three lawful ways out of a local congregation: by death, by letter of transfer, and by excommunication. Presbyterian laymen who have been brought before the church's session because they are suspected of holding heretical preterism, and who persist in their commitment to heretical preterism by refusing to sign a statement that is consistent with the Westminster standards, must be removed from membership in the local congregation by excommunication." ("Full Preterism" : Manichean or Perfectionist-Pelagian?)

Joe Price (1989)
"It is not a harmless, private conviction which can be held without hurting oneself and others, but a pernicious theory of error which engulfs the soul of men in destructive heresy!" (Joe Price, "The Second Coming of Christ: Did it Already Occur'! (3)," Guardian of Truth. November 2, 1989, p. 650).

David B. Updegraff (1892)
"THE effort to make people believe that the promised parousia [coming] of our Lord took place at the "destruction of Jerusalem" tends to mislead souls, blot out the Christian's hope, and destroy the value of Scripture as a definite testimony to anything."  (Old Corn: Or, Sermons and Addresses on the Spiritual Life, p. 278)

Jim West
"
We must not let them get away with calling themselves "preterists" or "consistent preterists," or believers in "fulfilled eschatology." The word "preterist" is a good word. The disciples of Hymenæus are not preterists; their "dispensable eschatology" makes them heretics. " (The Allurement of Hymenæan Preterism: The Rise of Dispensable Eschatology)

Douglas Wilson
"When some people find a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail. In the world of hyper-preterism, we find that everything is devoted to tying everything else into A.D. 70 somehow." (WSTTB, p.255 )

 


ARTICLES IN SUPPORT OF FULL PRETERISM

ARTICLES BEING EDITED USING THE FOLLOWING METHOD:

  • (DFP) "DISTINCTLY FULLPRET POSITIONS" - A red box at the top-left of all articles, in order to display the positions which are, for the most part, the doctrinal distinctives of Full Preterism. 

  • (CNS)  "COMMENTARY NOT SCRIPTURE" - Author's comments are colored navy blue.  Scripture references are colored black.  All notes modifying the body of that reference using parentheses are colored red.  This is done to notify the reader that the Bible reading is being massaged to suit the author's purposes.  Doing so doesn't imply dishonesty.. just the need of the reader to proceed very cautiously.   Partial quotations of the Bible and other authors will be colored along with author's own comments.
     

David Chilton | Samuel Frost | Max King | Tim King | Don Preston | Kurt Simmons | Ed Stevens

Richard Anthony

  • Scriptures Say When Jesus Would Come! (2002) "If Jesus didn't come back in the first century when he said that he would, then you might as well throw your Bible out"

    • Every man was rewarded according to his works in AD70

    • Every reference to the Lord's coming is a time statement pointing to AD70

    • Jesus was a liar if his second coming wasn't in AD70

    • Scripture is not inspired if Jesus' second coming wasn't in AD70

William H. Bell Jr. - Church of Christ

  • When Did Miracles Cease? - "If that redemption were "completed" at the cross or on the day of Pentecost, then miraculous gifts were a useless commodity to the church"
    • The church came under a new dispensation after AD70

    • There are no "miraculous operations of the Spirit" after AD70

    • The gift of inspiration to apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers ceased in AD70

    • Christian Age on earth doesn't start until AD70

    • Christian Age on earth is without end

    • Supernatural power of evil ceased in AD70

    • The earnest and sealing of the Holy Spirit was only until AD70

    • The "day of redemption" was in AD70

    • In AD70 God was seen "face to face"

    • In AD70 the church came to the unity of faith

  • The Parousia and Acts 1:11 - "Any interpretation of Acts 1:11 that fails to honor the time limitations for the parousia is not "exegesis" but "eisegesis"!"

    • Jesus' prayer "thy kingdom come" no longer valid - kingdom came in AD70

    • God anticipated the errors of "parousia delay" by placing related verses next to time texts

  • The Dead Are Raised - "Yes, the dead are raised. Hades has been destroyed. The way into the holiest of all is now manifest. Thanks be to God who gave us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ."
    • The "eternal new covenant age" is earthly, and started in AD70

    • There was no resurrection prior to AD70

    • Sonship in Christ is equated with resurrection

    • Jesus' declaration that there is no marriage in the AD70 age to come doesn't preclude marriage

    • The patriarchs were resurrected into the eternal kingdom when it came in AD70

    • The saints from the east, west, north and south sat down and inherited the kingdom in AD70

    • The gathering of the elect from the four winds happened at the fall of Jerusalem in AD70

    • The great sound of the trumpet happened in AD70

    • Hades was destroyed in AD70

    • The way into the holiest of all was made manifest in AD70

  • A Boat Divided Against Itself Cannot Float - "Noah's ark cannot be split according to scripture. The division in Matthew is unsupported, unsubstantiated and indefensible. Luke 17 links Noah with the fleeing event, all in the day when the Son of Man is revealed. A future coming of Christ that disregards these facts simply cannot be as it was in the days of Noah."
    • God anticipated the errors of "parousia delay" by placing related verses next to AD70 time texts

    • Christ's only coming was in AD70, the parousia limited to that event

  • Challenging Concepts Of The Resurrection - "The resurrection of saints from Hades and the change of the "living" as far as we know, was not perceivable to the physical eye. The limits of physical observation do not deny, disprove, or otherwise negate the clear teachings of scripture that the resurrection occurred in 70 A.D."
    • Israel's captivity was symbolic of the saint's captivity prior to AD70

    • The "fall of Babylon" is the fall of national Israel in AD70

    • AD70 was the resurrection of the saints to their homeland, the new heaven and earth

    • The deliverance of the saints in AD70 was the opening of the graves and the bringing forth of all into judgment

    • The indwelling of the Spirit ceased in AD70

    • The dead saints were resurrected from hades in AD70

    • The resurrection of the "living" occurred in 70 A.D., in connection with the fall of Jerusalem

  • This Present Evil Age - "Eternal life will be seen in Matthew where it is seen in Hebrews, in A.D.70, at the fall of the temple and Jewish commonwealth. "
    • The Bible was written in a different dispensation, as it was all written prior to AD70

    • The Christian age didn't start until AD70

    • The "world to come" is earthly in nature, and started in AD70

    • The saints deliverance from "this age" was in AD70 at the return of Christ

    • "the law" is the "Jewish age"

    • The gospel was not part of "this present age" of Scripture

    • Jesus taught that the consummation of the age was Jerusalem's fall in AD70

    • Matthew 24-25 cannot be divided -- all referring to AD70

    • The church could not enter into the holy of holies until AD70

    • Eternal life did not come until the fall of the temple in AD70

  • The Illusion Of The Conclusion - "Old Covenant Israel must be introduced into the equation as consideration of the creation in Romans 8. There was a real need to deliver them from the bondage of sin-death. Christ took on the nature of his brethren (Old Covenant Israel) that he might suffer sin-death with them in order to destroy the power of Satan and subsequently deliver his brethren from that bondage,."

    • Old Covenant Israel was the creation that was to be freed from sin/death in AD70

    • Christ took the nature of Old Covenant Israel to die sin/death and deliver them from bondage

    • The "present age" was a transition period from Old Covenant to the establishment of the New  in AD70

    • This transition was from AD30 to AD70

    • Judaizers persecuted Christians because of their teaching of an imminent return of Christ

    • The "sufferings" were eschatological in nature

    • The creation's reception of glory came in AD70

    • The "world" of 1 John 3:1-2 was Jewish

    • The consummation of the ages was in AD70

    • The New Testament saints were freed from the bondage of corruption in AD70

    • New Covenant saints were perfected in AD70

    • The Holy Spirit completed his work in AD70

  • Philippians 4:5 - Spatialogy or Eschatology - "No mild fit of intellectual wresting can sever this text from the subject of the Parousia, nor lessen its emphatic nearness."
    • Universal acknowledgment of Christ's sovereignty came in AD70

    • The resurrection was completed in AD70

Don Preston - Church of Christ

  • The Passing of the Elements: II Peter 3:10 - "The word translated as world is from cosmos. It is unfortunate that when this word is used in scripture most people think it has to speak of the physical universe."

    • The Greek word "stoicheia" only has reference to the rites of Old Covenant Israel

    • For Paul, the destruction of the world meant the passing of the Old Covenant world

    • The passing of the "old world" and the coming of the "new world" was in AD70

    • The "day of the Lord" was exclusively AD70

    • The crucifixion initiated atonement, but left it incomplete until the second coming.

    • Atonement was completed in AD70

  • An Airtight Argument? - "We are convinced the only construct of Mark 8:38-9:1 and parallels which satisfies the chronological and contextual demands is to understand Jesus predicting his return in full glory to judge all men... This happened in 70 A.D. when he destroyed Jerusalem"

    • The kingdom was not full grown until AD70

    • The scheme of redemption was completed in AD70

    • Kingdom established, yet not fully established on Pentecost

    • Jesus returned in fully glory in AD70

    • Jesus returned, with his angels, to judge every man in AD70

  • Misconceptions About Misconceptions - "Since the disciples did not lack understanding as has been generally assumed, it is easy to correlate the parallel passages of Mark 13 and Luke 21 with Matthew 24."
    • The parable of the tares was fulfilled in AD70

    • The parable of the pearl was fulfilled in AD70

    • The parable of the fish net was fulfilled in AD70

    • Matthew 24 is a singular discourse about the only parousia of Christ, which was in AD70

    MORE TO COME...

P.S. Desprez

The Apocalypse Fulfilled in the Consummation of the Mosaic Economy (1854) "It remains to be tried whether the ideas of a finished salvation, a perfected Christianity, an open kingdom of heaven, a life-state in Christ, an eternal reign in an eternal kingdom already set up, might not have a more constraining influence upon mankind than the questionable theory of an uncertain coming."

Robert Townley

Robert Townley: The Second Advent of Jesus Christ: A Past Event (1845) Earliest Known Full Preterist Book

Converted to Universalism Shortly After Releasing Earliest Known Full Preterist Book in 1845 -  PDF

Three Grand Expositions of Man's Enmity to God (1845) Thom's Response to Robert Townley (earliest known Full Preterist), who converted to Universalism shortly thereafter. "Professor (George) Bush is, I perceive, a favourite writer with (Townley). He is also a favourite with the American Universalists, a body which boasts of numbering among its adherents above 600,000 individuals, and which happens to agree with my friend in his notion of Christ's second coming being past."

David Chilton

Foreword to "What Happened in AD70?" - "In this slim volume, Edward E. Stevens clearly and convincingly demonstrates that our Lord Jesus Christ predicted His Return within the lifetime of His first-century hearers."  (Modern Preterist)

Ward Fenley

The Second Coming of Christ Already Happened! (1997) 


Online Bible Books: Ed Stevens' "What Happened in AD70?" "The author clearly and convincingly demonstrates that our Lord Jesus Christ predicted His Return within the lifetime of His first-century hearers."

 


ONLINE BOOKS BY HYPER PRETERISTS


Universalism in America, Volume II : Bibliography "And having satisfied our minds respecting the time of the coming of the Son of man to judge and reward men according to their works, and being assured that that event took place when Jerusalem was destroyed, and the Jews dispersed; it remains an easy task to settle the question respecting the meaning and fulfillment of all the passages in the New Testament which speak of that judgment, and the awful calamities which fell on the people. But we must always keep in mind the fact that all those scriptures were fulfilled in that generation in which Jesus and his disciples lived." (Hosea Ballou, 1805 - Treatise on the Atonement) | Tentmaker Books

  • 1804 : Hosea Ballou - Notes on the Parables "Will the reader now say that all this may be, and that both Daniel and the Saviour were speaking of the resurrection of mankind to a state of immortal happiness and misery in a future world? To this we reply, when Jesus spoke to his disciples of the destruction of Jerusalem and of the calamities which should shortly come on the Jews, he uses the words of Daniel nearly verbatim, when he speaks of the time of trouble. By this circumstance we are instructed that both Daniel and the Saviour spake of the same time and of the same events, and that time was, when Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans."

  • 1805 : Hosea Ballou - Treatise on the Atonement  "And having satisfied our minds respecting the time of the coming of the Son of man to judge and reward men according to their works, and being assured that that event took place when Jerusalem was destroyed, and the Jews dispersed; it remains an easy task to settle the question respecting the meaning and fulfillment of all the passages in the New Testament which speak of that judgment, and the awful calamities which fell on the people. But we must always keep in mind the fact that all those scriptures were fulfilled in that generation in which Jesus and his disciples lived."

  • 1819: Hosea Ballou - Select Sermons Delivered on Various Occasions "In his account of the destruction of the Jews, and of the vengeance of God upon them, Jesus was particular in his reference to what had been written on the subject ; he says, "For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.. the whole is confined to that generation ; and not the least intimation of punishment in a future state of existence."

  • 1824 : John Samuel Thompson - Prophecy Fulfilled. Or, Destruction of Jerusalem and Dispersion of the Jewish People

  • 1826 : Thomas Brown A History of the Origin and Progress of the Doctrine of Universal Salvation "I shall now prove, and prove only from the scriptures, that this was the end of the world, the end of the age, the day of judgment, and "the days of vengeance, that all things which are written by Moses and the prophets might be fulfilled."  And the hell that people have so long been talking about was in Jerusalem." "Now the whole just amounts to this, that the only way to prove a hell of endless punishment, must be to prove that what is said by the prophets.. means endless punishment.  If that can be done, then we must, to our great grief and sorrow, and to the sorrow of all good men, give up Universal Salvation.  .. I conclude that no man of sense and learning will ever undertake it, nor to find a law that ever threatened such punishment for sin, then we have gained the victory, the great and long controversy is decided."

  • 1832: Thomas Whittemore: Notes and Illustrations of the Parables of the New Testament "Some recent authors have expressed much surprise, that Universalists of the present day should apply so many passages of the New Testament to the destruction of Jerusalem. To name no other, Rev. Parsons Cooke speaks 'of the credulity of those who embrace the system of Universalism,' in believing 'that so large a part of the Bible should relate to the destruction of Jerusalem.'  'If ever I succeeded,' says he,' in digesting the monstrous absurdity, I would be honest enough to call things by right names, and label the New Testament, "JERUSALEM'S DESTRUCTION FORETOLD."

  • 1839 : Josiah Priest - The Anti-Universalist - Displays Preterist Universalism's arguments based upon past fulfillment : "And if he shall come again, in like manner, it must take place at a definite time, and that definite time will be the day of judgment, will it not? Oh, but, says the Universalist, I believe he did come, and in so coming, the promise of the two angels was fulfilled, and the day of judgment is past. But when we enquire, did he come, and what was the day of judgment? Why, says one, he came at the time of the destruction of the city of Jerusalem by the Romans, about forty years after his ascension." (The Anti-Universalist, p. 80)

  • 1843 : Adin Ballou - The True Scriptural Doctrine of the Second Advent, an Effectual Antidote to Millerism "The "second coming," "appearing," or "revelation," of Christ, in his regal and judicial glory, took place about the time of the final dispersion of the Jews, at the end of the Mosaic age. The general resurrection and day or age of judgment, then commenced in the invisible world, denoted to mortals only by the remarkable signs, terrors, and dreadful events, attendant on the destruction of Jerusalem. Then all departed souls in Hades came forth, clothed with immortality, before the judgment seat of Christ, they that had done good to the resurrection of life, and they that had done evil unto the resurrection of condemnation. The patriarchs, prophets, apostles and saints, who had previously finished their course on earth, and were resting in hope, then entered into their glory in the resurrection of the just." (p.3)

  • 1843 : Thomas B. Thayer - Universalist Miscellany The "Coming" "Appearing" "Revelation" &c. in Scriptural Usage - "These passages show that the revelation of Christ in judgment was, very near, on the eve of opening when the revelator wrote, which, as we have said, was immediately preceding the event, about A. D. 69; and the destruction of Jerusalem took place about two years after, A. D. 70, so fulfilling all the predictions of Christ and his apostles." 

  • 1845 : Dr. David Thom - Three Grand Expositions of Man's Enmity to God  Thom's Response to Robert Townley (earliest known Full Preterist), who converted to Universalism shortly thereafter. "Professor Bush is, I perceive, a favourite writer with him. He is also a favourite with the American Universalists, a body which boasts of numbering among its adherents above 600,000 individuals, and which happens to agree with my friend in his notion of Christ's second coming being past."

  • 1845: Robert Townley - The Second Advent of Jesus Christ: A Past Event (1845) Earliest Known Full Preterist Book

  • 1845 : Robert Townley Converted to Universalism Shortly Thereafter -  PDF File Excerpt from "Carlsbad Eschatology Conference" Notes

  • 1848: Thomas Whittemore: A Commentary on the Revelation of St. John, the Divine "For our part, we are willing to confess, that if a man believes the Apocalypse was not written until after the destruction of Jerusalem, and if he believes in the common notions concerning the day of God's wrath, the judgment of the dead, the great dragon, the bottomless pit, &c., &c., he cannot understand the book. He will be continually hampered by his pre-conceived system ; and, in harmony with such a system, no probable interpretation can be given. Although Professor Stuart has produced an excellent work upon the Apocalypse, — the most consistent and valuable, we think of any we've have ever seen, — yet he was manifestly troubled and warped in his judgment in interpreting certain parts by his theological system, or creed, especially his belief in endless misery, and the popular notions of a future judgment. "

  • 1848: Dr. David Thom: The Number and Names of the Apocalyptic Beasts: with an Explanation and Application (1848) "For many years I have rejected unhesitatingly, and on what seem to myself to be most valid and satisfactory grounds, the notion,— might I not even be justified in calling it the fable ? — of this Book having been composed towards the close of the first century, A. D. 95 or 96, or thereabouts. Evidence to substantiate this, which is the common opinion, is, it appears to me, totally a-wanting. Events connected with the destruction of Jerusalem, and the passing away, at that era, of the Old Testament economy, are in more than one part of it clearly and strikingly spoken of, as matters of future occurrence : and if so, it must have proceeded from the pen of inspiration before A. D. 69 or 70 ; unless we feel disposed to impute to the Holy Ghost the uttering of prophecies subsequently to their accomplishment. Can it be shewn satisfactorily, indeed, that any of the New Testament records were composed at a later period than the one which has just been indicated ? I believe not."

  • 1854: P.S. Desprez - The Apocalypse Fulfilled in the Consummation of the Mosaic Economy  "It remains to be tried whether the ideas of a finished salvation, a perfected Christianity, an open kingdom of heaven, a life-state in Christ, an eternal reign in an eternal kingdom already set up, might not have a more constraining influence upon mankind than the questionable theory of an uncertain coming."

  • 1858: Lucius Paige: Selections from Eminent Commentators (1858) "Of course, it is not pretended that any one orthodox commentator explains every disputed text in accordance with the views entertained by Universalists. But among them ah, some have furnished us authority on every text of this description, with a very few exceptions; some furnishing authority on one text, some on another. The quotations are introduced, on each text, with reference to a single point; to wit, does this text teach or imply a state of misery in the future life, or does it not ? When any commentator allows that it does not, I consider him to be proper authority to quote in confirmation of the exposition given by Universalists, even though they do not agree with him in regard to what the text does mean. I will illustrate my meaning by a single example. By referring to the notes on Rev. vi. 12—17, it will be seen that Hammond and Lightfoot interpret the passage as descriptive of the ' destruction of Jerusalem and the whole Jewish state"

  • 1869: Richard Metcalf - Letter and Spirit (1869) "This was the second coming of Christ, which he foretold so vividly that its literal fulfilment must have given his disciples a still clearer proof of his Messiahship. The judgment with which he threatened the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, came, as he said it would, in the lifetime of that generation. The judgment which Paul said was impending came within five years of the time when Felix trembled in view of it. The disciple whom Jesus loved did tarry till the coming of his Master; and all the Gospel predictions upon the subject were realized in that spiritual coming at the end of the Jewish age, between A.D. 65 and A.D. 70. Not the slightest hint is given of still another coming to be looked for in or after our day; for all that was meant by the second coming of Christ, the great day of judgment and the end of the world, took place eighteen centuries ago."

  • 1879: Hyper Preterist Assassin, Charles Guiteau - The Truth: A Companion to the Bible "Christendom must have a new theology — a theology to fit the fact that Christ came A. D. 70. The great practical effect of this doctrine will be to establish the faith of Christendom in the Bible. This doctrine throws a calcium light upon the New Testament. It illuminates its otherwise mysterious words, verses, and chapters. No one can understand the Bible without this view of the second coming. It is a living stream of water running through the New Testament. This doctrine is the missing link, uniting Primitive Christianity with modern Christianity, and, it is believed, Holy Ghost power will come to the church by a belief in this doctrine. Thousands have rejected the Bible, to their eternal death, on account of its apparent inconsistency, not knowing the truth concerning Christ's second coming..  We epitomize the history of the race thus : Adam, Noah, Abraham, Christ's birth, Christ's death and resurrection, Christ's second coming, A. D. 70. Christ's second coming is the pivotal fact of history." (pp. 53,55)

  • 1971: Max R. King The Spirit of Prophecy (Warren, OH: by the author, 1971). ; The Cross and The Parousia of Christ. (Parkman Road Church of Christ, 1987). ; Old Testament Israel and New Testament Salvation (Warren OH, 1990).

  • 1998: Ward Fenley - The Second Coming of Christ Already Happened!

  • 2003: Fugget, Eric, A Personal Revelation

  • 2003: Tom and Steve Kloske - The Second Coming: Mission Accomplished

  • 2004: Brian L. Martin - Behind the Veil of Moses

  • 2004: Kelly Nelson Birks - The End of Sin  - "There exists within the scriptures of the Old and New Testaments, a yet future experiential victory that is to be achieved through the work of Christ as his gospel continues to go forward and invade all peoples, nations, and languages. It will result in the "Teloarmatia: the end of sin" in its experiential existence, within the future history of the human race. "

  • 2003: Kurt M. Simmons - The Consummation of the Ages


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Preston

  • The Ashes of the Red Heifer - "If Christ has not completely fulfilled the prophetic aspect of the red heifer sacrifice the old law is still in effect. If he has fulfilled the prophetic element of that offering the old law has passed---and death has been abolished."

  • Every Eye Shall See Him - "It is strange indeed that such a literalistic interpretation has been imposed on Revelation 1:7 when this violates the inspired interpretation (Matthew 24:30-34) of the source of the verse (Zechariah 12:10.)"

  • A Critical Text - "We conclude that Matthew 16:27-28 is a prediction by Jesus to return in judgment, in his kingdom glory, in the lifetime of his disciples."

  • With The Sound of the Trumpet - "The trumpet was to be blown for the gathering of God's elect from the "death" of separation from God's presence and fellowship."

  • The World That Perished - "Peter foresaw the coming dissolution of another society, the Jewish world. This is exactly what happened in a.d. 70 in the conflagration of the capital, heart, and soul of the Theocracy of Israel."

  • How Heaven & Earth Passed Away! - "If you believe that the Old Covenant has passed away then you must believe that Heaven and Earth have passed away!"

  • More On Heaven And Earth - "Many passages in the New Testament speak of the "heavens and earth" with no reference to the physical heaven and earth"

  • How Is This Possible? - "Since the Thessalonican concept of the day of the Lord was the Old Covenant concept, and their concept was CORRECT then it follows that the day of the Lord for which they were looking was not the end of time but was instead a time when God would judge his people."

  • A Local Judgment? - "We find untenable the contention that the fall of Jerusalem was a localized judgment. It was in fact the universal judgment of the living and the dead!"

  • More On No Death, No Sorrow, No Pain - "To literalize means that the Old Covenant prophecies have not yet been fulfilled and Jesus taught that all prophecy had to be fulfilled before the Old Covenant could pass."

  • World Without End - "The Bible does not speak of the end of time, but of the time of the end."

  • Can God Tell Time? - "If "at hand" time statements mean nothing at all, then God cannot tell time."

  • Babylon The Great of Revelation - "In Revelation the coming of Christ, the New Creation, judgment and resurrection are associated with the fall of Babylon. To mistakenly identify Babylon is to incorrectly interpret these issues."

  • When All Things Written... - "When we mistakenly believe the Bible is concerned about the "end of time" instead of the "time of the end" we cannot allow Jesus' words in Luke 21:22 to speak for themselves."

  • Hebrews 9:28 - The Second Coming - "Since Christ's coming in 70 was the coming for redemption, and since he was to return only once for salvation per Hebrews 9:28, then Christ's return in 70 was the final coming of Christ."

  • Thessalonians & The Olivet Discourse - "Context and consistency demands the identical subject matter of the Olivet Discourse and II Thessalonians 2--the end of the Old World of Judaism at the coming of Jesus Christ in 70 AD."

  • The Time Has Come - "1 Peter 4:17 has revealed very powerful evidence that Peter was anticipating the consummative judgment coming of Jesus."

  • Nature of the Parousia - "In his discussion of the transition from the "outer man" to the inner, from the temporal to the eternal, Paul says "we do not look on the things that are seen, but on the things that are unseen" (2 Corinthians 4:16f). He patently cannot be saying that the resurrection change would be unperceived! It would be seen (perceptual) but unseen (not optical!)."

 

MS Cheo - Singapore Preterist

  • The New Heaven and New Earth, Millennium, New Jerusalem - Explained! - "Making fragile human Christians living between A.D.30 to A.D. 70 to be reigning with Christ as Kings and Priests is stretching the words too much."

  • "They who pierced Him" and the Horrible Death of Jesus - MS Cheo "This association comes to me as my belief in preterism increases.  I hope the above analysis will bring forth further harmony of the Bible, and (finally) identify the real “they who pierced Him” to be, or at least, the real reason behind. Though I am a preterist, it may not necessary reflect the view and belief of other preterists.  Nevertheless, please share with me your thoughts, reasons and arguments if you think I am going onto a loony path."

  • Just who is the Elijah-to-come - Singapore "I believe the crux of the problem in identifying this prophesied Elijah is that we had been taught (or led) to associate the Messenger of Mal 3:1 and the Elijah-to-come  of Mal 4:5 to be one and the same person!  In the flash of a moment, it occurred to me that they could be two distinct persons.  Further studies show me that these two distinct persons did come and faithfully complete their missions during the lifetime of Jesus!  "

David Chilton - Former Reconstructionist Partial Pret

  • Foreword to "What Happened in AD70?" (1997) "In this slim volume, Edward E. Stevens clearly and convincingly demonstrates that our Lord Jesus Christ predicted His Return within the lifetime of His first-century hearers."

  • Looking For New Heavens and a New Earth (1996) - "Because of what may be called the 'collapsing-universe' terminology used in this passage [2 Peter 3], many have mistakenly assumed that St. Peter is speaking of the final end of the physical heaven and earth, rather than the dissolution of the Old Covenant world order."

David B. Curtis - Reformed

  • The Law is Fulfilled  "The Mosaic Law is a unit. It exists as a unit or not at all. This notion that the Mosaic Law can be sliced and diced into ceremonial, civil, and moral is not one that you will find anywhere in the Bible. "

  • Preterism and the Lord's Supper - "Redemption is complete, we are now dwelling in the promise land of the New heaven and earth, in the very presence of God. As we observe the Lord's Supper, we celebrate a completed redemption."

  • The Theme of Revelation - "Revelation was written before Nero's death in 68AD. The book is largely fulfilled."

  • The Resurrection from the Dead - "The Scriptures testify that the time of the resurrection was to be at the end of the Old Covenant age. We know this to have happened in AD 70 with the destruction of the Jewish Temple. The disciples knew that the fall of the temple and the destruction of the city meant the end of the Old Covenant age and the inauguration of a new age."

Kenneth Davies - Evangelical

  • An Answer to the Article By Dr. Larry Spargimino - "The "blessed hope" of the New Testament is that Christ would return within the lifetime of at least SOME of those to whom Jesus spoke (Matt. 16:27-28; 24:34, etc.). Dr. Spargimino should deal with the verses cited in the article, "An Air of Expectancy," by Terry Siverd. If that hope was delayed or never occurred (as critics of Christianity, such as the atheist Bertrand Russell allege), then Jesus and His apostles either lied or were mistaken, and Christians truly do have a "blasted hope"!

Dan Delagrave

  • The Times of the Gentiles - "Jerusalem's first century desolation represented the time when Christ put his enemies – read I Thessalonians 2:15-16 – under his feet. This was accomplished during a forty two month period which Jesus called "the times of the Gentiles".

Gene Fadeley

  • What Happened to the Rapture? - " How little has the expectations of 21st century people changed from the expectations of first century Jews. People are still determined to have the physical king and kingdom that the first century Jews did not receive. However, the words of Jesus still ring true, "my kingdom is not of this world" and "the kingdom is within you. The root of the problem has been the failure of seeing the difference between the physical and the spiritual."

  • Who is the Antichrist? -"The word "antichrist" is only used four times in the scriptures, all by the apostle John. Surprisingly, the word "antichrist" never appears in the book of Revelation."

Michael Fenemore

Ward Fenley - Sovereign Grace

  • The General Beliefs of Preterists - "I cannot fault the general heading of preterism..  just because a few have chosen to follow a rabbit trail leading to one of these beliefs with which I disagree. For example, I strongly disagree with any belief that teaches that none of the NT blessings of eternal life are applicable today. But that doesn't mean it is a result of preterism."

  • Rapture Light and Glory - "Though the reception of a physical body is defended as being the fundamental principle of the resurrection, Paul declares the following, clearly outlining the nature of the resurrection:"

  • Seeing God - "Many are still waiting for some physical sight of Christ or the tree of life, but to those whom God has given sight, our vision is clear and it is sweet Proverbs 13:19 The desire accomplished is sweet to the soul..."

  • Why are People Still Given in Marriage? - "the fact that there is still marriage in this physical life does not negate the fact that there is NOT marriage in the kingdom anymore than the fact that there are males and females in this physical life does not negate the fact that there are NOT males or females in the kingdom."

  • Absent From the "Body" (An Analysis of II Cor. 5) -  "transformation texts go untouched because they deal with the change from death to life and the progressive salvation that was taking place upon those first century believers. This is why there is such confusion with the imagined "already but not yet" doctrine."

  • Seed of Satan, Seed of Christ, and Riches "Children are counted as the SEED. They are counted as Christ. We are recipients of EVERY spiritual blessing in heavenly places and execute the reign and rule AS God in the kingdom. Just as Israel entering into the promised land was the executor of the reign of God on the physical earth, so also the NC Israel is the executor of the reign of God on the spiritual earth."

  • Glory, the Face of Christ, and Marriage - "Certainly Christ was faithful and the believers appeared with Him in glory as the marital relationship was consummated. What a blessed kingdom we have with a glorious King who owns His glorious bride."

  • Psalm 22:22-31: An Exposition - "God shows the immediate punishment coming upon Israel by the Babylonians (Chaldeans), but then gives the glorious prophetic outlook concerning the messianic kingdom. God says He would bring His people health and cure and reveal the abundance of peace and truth to them."

  • The Resurrection of the Dead Already Happened! - "True believers in Jesus Christ are completely resurrected in the fullness of the spiritual body mentioned in 1 Corinthians 15."

  • The Timing of Regeneration - "Resurrection life and light in the face of Jesus Christ are spiritual realities now for the one who believes on His name."

  • A Harmony of the Synoptics Concerning the Destruction of Jerusalem and the Coming of the Lord

  • Moses, House, Rest, and the Presence of God - "The seventh day of God's rest represents His union with His people in His rest in causing them to rest and inherit the land."

  • The Signal of John the Baptist - "John’s joy was fulfilled in knowing that she was now safe with her Husband-to-be. Why would there be any reason for John to joy in a betrothal that would not be consummated for thousands of years to come? Implicit in John’s announcement that his joy was fulfilled in hearing the voice of the Bridegroom is the manifest indication that the Husband was near."

  • Kingdom Of God & The Kingdom of Heaven: Is There A Difference? - "There was one kingdom predicted in the prophets. There was one kingdom of which our Lord spoke. And there was one kingdom that began at Pentecost and was brought to its fulness at the Parousia."

  • Heaven, Earth and Sea - "In Revelation Israel (i.e. Jerusalem) was that great harlot who trusted nations rather than God. She forsook her Husband. The Bible describes Israel as the harlot sitting upon many waters. These waters were the seas or the nations in whom she trusted"

  • The Last Days - "With the destruction of Jerusalem and its Temple, Jesus Christ brought to complete establishment the eternal Jerusalem from above. The last days concerned Israel and its covenant and nation. We are now in the age that was about to come"

  • The Husband Who Draws His Wife - "Forgiveness is the result of the drawing love of God for His bride. Though His bride was once a vile and adulterous woman."

  • Resurrection, the Hope of Israel, and the Song of Moses - "The Song of Moses has strong elements of prophecy. This section was particularly striking as it pertains to the resurrection we now have in Christ. The fullness of resurrection comes from the OC Israelite hope of being planted in their land. To them that was resurrection. And we as Gentiles are grafted into that reality through our life with Christ."

  • To This End Was I Born (The Reason for the Season) - "During this season we call the Christmas season, we hear many carols that so joyfully proclaim Christ as King: "Come and worship, Come and worship, Worship Christ the newborn King;" "Hark the herald angels sing, 'Glory to the newborn King;'" "Joy to the world, the Lord is come. Let earth receive her King."

  • Judgment upon all Nations Fulfilled by the Gospel

  • The Failure of the Non-Covenantal Seed Analogy

  • A Letter to My Dad (1996)

Bryan Forgy

Elton Foster - Comprehensive Grace

  • The New Man - "the "Resurrection" and the "Spiritual body" cannot and should not be separated. The scriptures are clear, that the two co-inside with each other."

Samuel Frost - "Preterism is an interpretive system that is locked on the events of 66-70 A.D.  It views this as the decisive eschatological event.  The Second Coming, Resurrection of the Dead and Great Judgment are seen as having taken place in and around these years. This is a contradiction to Christian orthodoxy and its Creeds, Councils and all the Reformed, Baptist, and Methodist Standards (and we wonder why preterists are called "heretics"!)." 

  • Todd Dennis and Preteristic Idealism (2007) "Just because some universalists are using preterism for a framework that they think helps there case does not make Dennis' accusations here true.  Dennis should be above such types of obvious fallacies. "

  • Hosean Allusions in First Corinthians (2006) - "One has to do forensic work in I Cor 15. The oft repeated analogy is that of listening to one end of a phone conversation and trying to figure out the other end. Deductions, clues, hints, implications and inferences can be drawn so that a fairly accurate construction can be had. It was “made known” (vdhlw,qh) to Paul from "the ones of Chloe" that "selfish rivalries" (;ridej) had broken out among the Corinthians (1.11). No doubt, those rivalries were theologically driven at bottom, manifesting ethical and practical differences which began to wreak havoc in the way the Corinthian households gathered together for worship and fellowship."

  • Saint Athanasius and Preterism (2005) "The Church must receive what is incontrovertible, but reject what raises serious problems in order to work out a solution within its own traditions that best resolves these problems for the sake of maintaining biblical truth (even if this means eliminating older paradigms which have created the problems in the first place). There will be, and always have been, cries of “heresy” from self-proclaimed “purists” and “keepers of the traditions”. This is to be expected. But, the ever faithful, and, in Luther’s case, the faithful few, keep raising the issues and pointing out the hypocrisy, arbitrariness, and inconsistency until such a voice is raised within the holy church that the “few” become the “many.”

  • Propositions of Preterism (2005) "as our dear saint has noted, we are without “vision and prophet.”  We are not guided by burning bushes, splitting Red Seas, clouds by day and fire by night.  These are things seen.  Yet, because redemption had not yet come, the children of Israel needed a schoolmaster."  "the church is perfect according to the word of God, and not according to what we SEE.  That is judging the church as a child, wanting to go back to Egypt.  Modern day yearning for the good old days sound like this: “wouldn’t it be easier if Jesus just came back and did some really cool miracles?  Wouldn’t it be easier if we just discovered the ark of Noah?  Wouldn’t it be easier if we could have incontrovertible proof that Jesus returned in A.D. 70?"

  • A Critical Response to Kurt Simmons' Bi-Millennialism (2004)  "The question is, when were these given authority to judge? It must be when they came to life (both are aorist aspects). Thus, when they came to life, they were given thrones and authority to judge, being that they were ‘with Christ.’ This is closely akin to ‘being seated with Him in heavenly places.’ It is this that John is picturing here. When did any ‘come to life’ in Christ?"

  • A Critical Response to the Kloskes' Exegesis of I Corinthians 15 (2004) "The “transformation” happens to both the living and the dead at the same time. KK appear to agree with this as the quote above shows, but the “change” given to the “dead” is different from the “change” given to the living, who go on living and eventually die. At the moment of their death they are “changed” by being given a “spiritual body.” However, as the quote above shows, KK believe that they have already, “spiritually speaking” or “internally” been changed with an added dimension of not yet being changed, finally (thus, leaving them to the charge of futurism of some sort). "

Eric Fugett, Author of A Personal Revelation

  • The Second Coming of Jesus Was Not in A.D.70 (2004) "Josephus believed it was an act of God that Gallus did not end the war at that time (Josephus, The Wars, Book II, Chapter 19, Sections 4-6). "

  • The Birth of Jesus (2004) "Is it just a coincidence that when the one true High Priest comes into the world, that for the first and only time, a temporary High Priest is appointed to perform the important duties for the Day of Atonement? Not if you believe, as I do, that the exact date for Jesus' birthday is the Day of Atonement or September 11, 5 BCE. "

  • Matthew 24: Before the Second Coming of Jesus (2004) "In this article, "A Personal Revelation" author, Eric Fugett explains the signs of Matthew 24 that describe the events that were to occur before Jesus returned.

  • The Seven Heads and Ten Horns (2004) "David Chilton makes a case for the number "eight" being the number that represents resurrection in his book, Days of Vengeance (pp. 434-437). He sites the eight survivors of the flood, and Jesus’ resurrection on the eighth day (since it was a Sunday) as his reasoning. Therefore, since Rome had struggled through the reigns of Galba, Otho, and Vitellus, Vespasian’s reign represented a resurrection of the Roman Empire’s power. Vespasian defeated most of Judea and sent his son Titus to destroy Jerusalem. Titus is the prince (NKJV) who was prophesied to come and destroy the city and the sanctuary in Daniel 9:26."

  • A Personal Revelation (2003) Chapter 1: The Quest Begins "In the first three verses John uses the words "soon take place" and "time is near" to describe the events that he will be writing about. We are told in verse seven that Jesus is coming. If we combine that with the time frame that has already been discussed, then the 1st Century Church must have been relieved, excited, and alarmed as well."

  • The Resurrection of the Dead - "1 Corinthians 15:52 tells us that the last trumpet will sound and the dead will be raised. Seven Feasts of Trumpets passed from the time that John was given The Revelation (September 11 63 CE (AD)), to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE (AD). Remember that eight is the number that represents resurrection. The eighth Feast of Trumpets occurred on September 24, 70 CE (AD) shortly after the destruction of Jerusalem. This was the day that the dead were resurrected."

Joseph E. Gautier, Jr.

  • Preterist ApoLOGICetic (1998) - "All over the world, on a daily basis, traditional-thinking Christians are being converted to partial preterism. Likewise, all over the world, partial preterists are studying themselves right into full preterism, shedding futurism along the way. The direction is towards the truth."

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