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Jack Van Impe on Preterism

On "Jack Van Impe Presents"
12/2/00 : 8 min.- 11 min. mark

 Jack Van Impe | 6/19/02 Attack |  9/21/2002 Attack

Rexella:  Let me refer to something, if you will think back, to a movie that we promoted on this program called "Left Behind."  In fact, its done so well so far they have sold about 15 million copies.  And we had a tremendous review in one of our local papers here in Michigan.  

Take a look at it: "Left Behind."  Christian movie lovers should enjoy viewing "left behind."  It is from the runaway bestselling novel Left Behind.   And this is what they had to say just beneath that picture of Kirk Cameron.  And of course he stars in "left behind."  Its gotten good marks for movie making, mixed reviews for theology.   Now, I'm gonna ask a great theologian, Jack Van Impe, about three different aspects of this article.  

His name is in here, by the way.  First of all, let me just say the word preterist, p-r-e-t-e-r-i-s-t.  Preterist.  Preterist theory.  Jack, explain that to us.  What does that mean? 

Jack : Well, I will not name the ministers in this article, like they did me.  Because I obey I Peter 2:17, where I'm told to love the brothers.  Love the brothers.  I don't care if you disagree with me.  I still love you because we're one body in Christ Jesus.  But I do want to correct  some of these things.

The Preterist view is the one that all the prophecies of the Bible happened in the first century, and therefore have no relationship to today.  Oh, really?  

When did we ever see 1/3 of the earth burned (Revelation 8:7)?  

1/3 of humanity destroyed through fire, smoke and brimstone  (Revelation 9:18)? 

When did we ever see every living creature in the sea die (Revelation 16:3)?

Or the battle of Armageddon fought in the earth (Revelation 16:16), accompanied by the greatest earthquake in history (v.18), accompanied by chucks of ice 120 pounds in weight falling to the ground (v.21)  ?

You better re-think your view.


Rexella:
So in other words, people who believe in the Preterist theory believe that all the things that we look, say will come, have already happened.

Jack: Yes. Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke chapter 17,21, have happened, and all these things are passe, finshed - baloney!  (laughter)  

Rexella: That's pretty far out. (laughter)

What do YOU think ?

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Date:
20 Sep 2001
Time:
05:04:42

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First of all, let me just say the word dispensationalist, d-i-s-p-e-n-s-a-t-i-o-n-a-l-i-s-t. dispensationalist. Dispensationalist theory. Explain that to us. What does that mean?

A dispensationalist is a mom and dad church member who, we have convinced, cannot read prophecy for themselves and are happy to give us large sums of money for our rehashed modernised sanitised form of Darbyism.

That's pretty far out. (laughter)


Date:
20 Sep 2001
Time:
06:40:26

Comments

Jack won't name any preterists' names because, unlike us, he obeys I Peter 2:17.

Then he proceeds to laugh at us on national television.

Dave : )


Date:
20 Sep 2001
Time:
15:16:05

Comments

Jack and Rexella's comments are their own refutation. When did we see, the mountains flattened and the moon turn to blood and the heavens roll up like a scroll? Well, if you believe the Bible, at least a couple times.

Kevin


Date:
21 Sep 2001
Time:
22:18:33

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This morning you admitted that you had been parroting others. You still are. I used to teach what you teach by and large, and I know your sources. But now I know and you know that the book of Revelation says nothing about a seven year tribulation period. It says nothing about rebuilding a temple. It says nothing about The LORD reigning on earth a thousand years with His feet planted on earth. It says nothing about a revived Roman Empire...Shame, Shame, Shame...Robert Blankenbaker, Myrtle Creek, Oregon


Date:
22 Sep 2001
Time:
20:38:31

Comments

These comments by Van Impe proves that his patchwork and puzzling exegesis of Scripture, that is the breeding ground for dispensationalist, is incapable of countering the truth of preterism with on single coherent Biblical rebuttal


Date:
22 Sep 2001
Time:
23:44:12

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Jack Van Impe: The preacher who claims to love the Jews, but writes a book entitled, "ISRAEL'S FINAL HOLOCAUST." It's not enough that 6,000,000 Jews were slaughtered by Hitler in the past. But, no, now comes Van Impe (who loves the Jews) predicting that the Jews are going to be put through another "Final" Holocaust. Pardon us Jack, but that sounds so familiar: something like The Final Solution?


Date:
24 Sep 2001
Time:
18:55:25

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Maybe if Jack VanImpe would actually take the time to study he would actually know the truth of scripture. I used to believe in the rapture the way it is taught, but God through His Holy Spirit showed me the truth. PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tony Eason, Florida


Date:
26 Sep 2001
Time:
18:29:33

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I think that Jack Van Impe should be labled as Jack the Imp. His television show make me want to puke with all of his cookiebowl mixing up of news cast and (his views) of unfullfil bible prophesies that he knows that will take place just be cause he thinks they will.

It never ceases to amaze me how the whole world of RELIGION can fall for the same lie as the PREMILLENNIAL PROPRAGANDA. If Jack is not under the blood of Christ, not by his own free will, then he will deffinately hear Jesus say: "Depart from Me you worker of iniquity, for I never knew you Jack and Jackella."

Paul Bollen


Date:
03 Oct 2001
Time:
15:41:30

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(laughter)


Date:
04 Oct 2001
Time:
00:34:30

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I once went to see Van Impe speak when I younger - at the end of his so-called sermon - he put in a plug for the accordian store where he got his accordian. A five minute commercial from the pulpit. He was a con-man then...

I reminded my friends as we left that the definition of gentleman was a guy would play the accordian but didn't. ;-)


Date:
05 Oct 2001
Time:
19:19:01

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In Luke's account (Luke 21) of the same prophesy (Matt. 24), the Jews are carried away captive into the nations. Does this mean that the nations are going to scatter the Jews all over the world again in our day?


Date:
24 Oct 2001
Time:
16:58:17

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The ministry of Jack Van Impe is one of the best arguments against dispensationalism. It is difficult to take anything he says seriously.


Date:
25 Oct 2001
Time:
13:24:53

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Jack Van Impe treats the book of Revelation like its an end times "laundry list " where you just go through and check things off one by one. Every time someone throws a rock in Palestine another prophecy in Revelation was just fulfilled. Someone needs to talk to Jack about AUDIENCE RELEVANCE. Revelation was written to seven real historical churches in the first century, not to us. Maybe its time Jack and Rexella re-think they're view. Brandon Hilliker--- Plantation, FL.


Date:
08 Nov 2001
Time:
01:02:42

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I don't think you have take every thing in the bible Natural for exmple in the old testement you read were the Sun or the moon was confuse. Jesus told his people that the star in will fall these star are not the star we see at night. The star that Jesus was no doubt talking about some kind of authority figures in the romans or Jewish gov.


Date:
12 Nov 2001
Time:
21:33:47

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When did we see all these things, Jack? Never. And neither will you. You claim to take the Bible literally, yet there is no mention of "The Antichrist" in the Book of Revelation. You have to import this figment of your imagination from various snippets of Scripture.

Literally speaking, Jack, if God owns the cattle on a thousand hills, who owns the cattle on Hill #1001? Satan? Tim Lahaye?

Also, if this supposed "Great Tribulation" Dispies so look forward to missing is going to be the greatest catastrophe in earth's history, does it mean that only seven people will survive? Eight survived Noah's flood. If any more than eight survive the "Great Tribulation", then Noah's flood still ranks Number One in catastrophes. Any catastrophe that leaves 66% of air-breating organisms alive cannot possibly compare to a handful of people on a boat full of animals?

Is it asking too much for you to be true to your own confession of "Literalism", Jack?

Bob J. Rousse


Date:
15 Nov 2001
Time:
11:04:53

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As with all dispensationalist, Jack and Rexella know very little about rightly dividing the word of truth. Just because you can quote scripture, does not mean you know them. For example, comparing scripture with scripture. In this case look at Matthew 24:29 where it says, "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken."

What does this mean in light of other scripture? Does the stars fall from heaven, or the moon not give its light, or the sun darkened? Are these things literal? Are they figuratively?

In Matthew 23 Jesus contended with the scribes and Pharisees, the religious leaders of His day and in verse 38 Jesus tells them that the house of Israel is left to them desolate and this is what Matt. 24, Luke 21, Mark 13, the book of revelation is all about. Read the book of Joel, specifically 2:2, 10-11, 31-32, 3:15 to name a few.

What Matthew 24 is talking about and Jack does not see, is that it is the powers that be that are falling, not the literal sun, moon and stars. God destroyed Israel in 70AD because they were apostate and became useless to God. Read the Book of Hosea as an example of just how Israel became apostate.

Jack and Relella may quote scripture but they don't know scripture and one of the dispensationalist problems is they don't use the whole counsel of God, such as the Old Testament. In 2nd Tim. 3:16 teaches us that doctrine and precepts come from the old Testament, for when Paul wrote this book, he was speaking of the Old Teatament because the New Testament was not yet written.

Search all the scripture to see if these thing are not so!

Michael Helfrich helfrich_@msn.com


Date:
15 Nov 2001
Time:
16:23:13

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I think Jack Van Impe is RIGHT ON! To me the preterist view where the whole bible is past events and nothing in it will happen is just crazy. Its first and foremost God's plan for mankind and its prophecy. Some prophecies have been fulfilled, some not. Yes there will be a 7 year tribulation. The church(believers) will be raptured up. Then the antichrist will move in and sign a 7 year treat, which he obviously breaks after 3 1/2 years.This signing of the treaty will start the 7 years. The 7 year tribulation is the 70th week of Daniel. 69 weeks have already been fulfilled. After the tribulation, Christ comes down for armageddon on a white horse, along with His church, the white army. the devil is bound for 1,000 years. Then after the battle, Christ will judge the people left on earth as to how they treated Israel. The sheep and the goats. Then Christ will reign on earth for 1,000 years and the devil is released one last time. Then the great white throne judgment of all unbelievers. and the old heavens and earth are destroyed and new ones created for eternity. The rapture is very real, without the rapture, you have no place for the judgement seat of Christ and the marriage supper prior to Christ's second coming. I think the preterist theology is scary to me. There are numerous prophecies to be fulfilled yet. I think you better really look at scripture. Good biblical scholars on this subject, which i see you dont mention, are Tim LaHaye, Grant Jeffrey, John Hagee, John Ankerberg, Edwin Lutzer. Thanks and always, Trust in the Lord, Chad


Date:
21 Nov 2001
Time:
18:12:09

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Father, I pray in the Name of Jesus that you will show these Preterists where they are wrong! please Lord, Don't let them deceive with their doctrines of Demons, instead, I pray that the Holy Spirit will reveal the Truth of God's Word to them, If they are reachable! I believe everybody is reachable but not everybody will see the truth due to the hardness of their harts. Praise God and Thank you Jesus, for answering my prayer.


Date:
28 Nov 2001
Time:
13:12:17

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All I can say is that anyone takes a hard close look at the scripture using the context, backrgound grammar, parallel passages, word studies (Grk and Hebrew) one will come to know who is correct. However, I find most if not all dispensationalists, including our brother Jack and his wife, failed to do this! We can argue until doomsday about what is true w/o looking hard at the text. Some teaching as well as Christians need a course in H-e-r-m-e-n-u-t-i-c-s.

IN Love, Michael R. Mysliwiec saigon_christ  @  hotmail.com


Date:
04 Dec 2001
Time:
23:59:22

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Dear God, I pray for the person above who prayed for the Preterists, that that person would spend more time studying Your Word than watching Jack Van Impe and TBN, if that be the case. In Jesus Name, Amen.


Date:
08 Dec 2001
Time:
08:26:49

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I think that Jack Vanimp is rhe biggist joke on tv . I personally despise his slaughter of the book of Revelation


Date:
19 Dec 2001
Time:
17:46:48

Comments

move Jack up to reigning champion! He takes the cake.


Date:
23 Dec 2001
Time:
17:17:27

Comments

I do not know much about Jack Van Impe, and I do not know Rexalla, but if Preterism holds to the views presented here, it is not only pretty far out, but unscriptural as well.


Date:
01 Jan 2002
Time:
20:26:52

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I always thought the Bible says That the antichrist comes first, and then when Christ comes all would be changed to the spirit for judgement. Who's left behind? I,am still waiting to be forced to be tattoo,d and a chip placed in me to change my mind and my heart to follow the antichrist. I always believed in free-will, meaning I have a choice in my choice. I do not believe that God allows that to be changed just becouse antichrist is here. I sure hope your teachings are in God will. I would not want to be judged for my teaching of His Word.


Date:
09 Jan 2002
Time:
13:36:00

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This is for Chad who tows the Christian party line when it comes to the end times (dispensationalism). Chad, you had bettter take another, closer look at the scripture you quoted from Daniel. Let me first ask you a question, Who stops the clock between the 69th week and the 70th week? There is no "gap" in the timeline laid out in Daniel, but a continuing prophecy. The "he" in verse 27, who confirms the covenant with many is none other than the Lord Jesus Christ. Check the use of pronouns! It is Christ who caused the sacrifice to cease and it is the Messiah who saves the lost by entering into a covenant with them. Please search the scriptures and pray for the Lord's guidance as you do. I once held to the false view of dispensationalism but thank the Lord Jesus that a closer study of the Scriptures lead me into the truth. As for the rest of us, let us pray that Christ will overturn this false doctrine, which enslaves so many and leads so many away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

David davidbiser@hotmail.com


Date:
15 Jan 2002
Time:
18:04:05
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I think it is sad that Christians are arguing and mocking and slandering each other. Any unbeliever who visits this site is not going to care whether you're a preterist or a dispensationalist. They will, however, notice how nasty you were to each other. I urge all of you to treat each other with deceny and respect. It is possible to have a debate without resorting to slander.


Date:
08 Mar 2002
Time:
00:27:35

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amen to brother and sister jack and rexella stand for christ many people are going to be deceived believeing that the great trib the wrath of the almighty god happened already its very sad but i know as they know it hasnt you will be judged by god by all your hate and false teaching your spreading!1 and i see many will believe in this anti-christ about to appear very soon !! jesus said there will be scoffers in the last days so were not to suprised of all this filth being spread because we know that satan has but little time and then eternal damnation with all that follow is false and lieing teachings!! they will fall from there faith and man isnt that the truth lord amen


Date:
09 Mar 2002
Time:
13:04:21

Comments

Do not buy the film "Left behind", please, Read the Bible instead.


Date:
10 Mar 2002
Time:
20:51:58

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I love it when people talk about Tim LaHaye as a "Scholar" a guy with NO post-graduate work in Theology at all. He has an honorary Dr. of Divinity and a Dr. of Literature degree. Big woop. Not that a degree makes a man, but when you don't even know the rules it makes it hard to play the game. Read his book covers closley, he only calls himself a "Prophecy Expert" because in a very true way, he is not a scholar. To be a "Scholar" you need to have a research degree in a specific field. Why does he not go to his beloved DTS and get one? Could it be that he is not respected even by Dispensational scholars?? Shame shame, on anyone who jerry-manders Matt. 24:24 to make anything in the Olivet Speach future!


Date:
10 Mar 2002
Time:
20:58:44

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You know, it really is all about the Bible. What does it say? Look. There is no 7 years in Revelation, there are many examples sun moon and stars going dark and falling from the sky in the OT so why do I have to think that the NT means something different? Please show me in the Bible where some prophecy (with the exception of the resurrection) is future. Show me the rapture and a World wide Great Trubulation in Matthew 24. I would really thank you. john@jmharris.org :-)


Date:
13 Mar 2002
Time:
13:23:34

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Jack Van Impe's ballet with religious questions did not impress me that he pays any attention to the "Spirit" of the Word. It seems that the letter kills, but it takes the "spirit" to give life. Wake up my beloved brother.


Date:
13 Mar 2002
Time:
14:14:48
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In honestly trying to understand the preterist view, if Revelation has already been fulfilled, when in history were the two witnesses of Rev.11 killed? How could all the nations see them lying in the streets for three days (vs.9) apart from satellite technology? Who were these two prophets and when did they torment those who dwell on the earth (vs.10)? Finally, it would seem to me that the events in vs.11 would have prompted first century witnesses to this event to about this miracle of God. Say Josephus maybe. Again, I'm honestly curious about this. I would appreciate a response. ed5763@aol.com


Date:
19 Mar 2002
Time:
11:45:18
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I have to take issue with Mr. David Curtis and his "Theme of Revelation". He states that Revelation was written in A.D. 68 before Nero's death. How can this be when John the Apostle was exiled to the Isle of Patmos by Domitian who reigned as Emperor from A.D.81 to 96?


Date:
20 Mar 2002
Time:
16:58:50
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et us examine today's title "Doctrinal Deficiencies". -)Doctrine:This transalates into teaching, principles advocated as instructions. -)Deficiency:Lacking an essential quality, incomplete , inadequate. Look at what the apostle paul tells us in Titus 1:5 "This is why I left you in Crete, that you might amend what was defective,..." and this is what we will do tonight. Let us put in perspective and contrast The Apostle paul and the Apostle John. We will do this in order to better comprehend the spirits with wich they wrote. The Apostle John 1) He was called into ministry by Jesus of Nazareth. 2) He was know as the beloved disciple 3) He was called to be an apostle during the dispensation of the law. 4) He was known to exercise his ministry of circumcision in Jerusalem. 5) He wrote John, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Letters of John and The Book of Revelations (between the years 90-96). 6) He Died of Natural causes at the end of the first century. 7) He Wrote of his experiences with jesus of Nazareth and of visions and revelations he received in theislad of Patsmos. 8) John Speaks of future things of things in the future. Notice: When we read Rev 1:1 we see that the things John spoke about in this book had not yet been fulfilled but were to occur in the future...keep this in mind as we go along. John was called to ministry by Jesus of Nazareth during the law a dispensation characterized by works. But we see in Romans 10:4 That JesusChrist is the end of the law indicating the change in dispensation that ocurred after Jesus death in calvary. The Apostle Paul 1) He was called by JesusChrist the Resurrected 2) He was kown as the master arquitect and founder of the work. 3) He was called to be an apostle during the dispensation of grace 4) He was known to execute the uncircumcision ministry throughout the world. 5) He wrote 14 epistles , from Romans to Hebrews (50-70 a.d.) 6) He Died in Rome decapitated by the end of the year 70 a.d. . 7) He Wrote of visions and revelations he received from JesusChrist in paradise. 8) He wrote of things past , of things that have been fulfilled already. Notice: The apostle paul was called to ministry during the dispensation of grace, to reveal the mistery of the gospel of grace (ephe 3:8), only Him was constituted apostle during this time (Heb 10:20) to show the pattern of a new and better way. Let us see what each apostle taught on a number of things.... THE TEACHINGS OF THE APOSTLE JOHN (the disciple) AND PAUL (the master) I) ABOUT THE DEVIL A) John wrote that the devil was still active and alive. Keep in mind that John wrote his letters 20 yrs after Paul's death. 1) Rev 2:10 "..., the devil is about to throw some of you into prison..". B) Paul exposed that the devil and its principalities had been destroyed by Jesus on the cross. 1) Heb 2:14 2) Col 2:15 II) ABOUT SIN A) John presented sin as still being active. 1) "..if we saywe have no sin..". (1John 1:8) B) Paul said that we should consider ourselves dead to sin... and he said sin had been taken away. 1) Rom 6:11 2) Heb 9:26 III) ABOUT THE TRINITY A) John presented this as the lamb and his father. 1) Rev 14:1 B) Paul said this was a mistery, that Jesus and the father were one, and that God had come in the flesh. 1) Col 2:2 "..the knowledge of God's mistery of The father of Christ, in whom {the word here whom denotes singular [in the original greek]} are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge." 2) 1Tim 3:16 IV) THE JUDGEMENTS A) John Speaks of the great white throne 1) Rev 20:11 B) Paul said that the doctrine of judgments was a rudiment. 1) Heb 6:1 (not laying again the doctrine of judgements) 2) Heb 9:27 V) ABOUT THE PERFECT SAINTS A) John says the saints must wash their clothes 1) Rev 22:14 B) Paul presents the reality of the inheritance of the cross 1) With one offering we were made perfect. He 10:14 2) We are holy and blameless. Ephe 1:4. VI) ABOUT THE HEIRS AND CHILDREN A) John Conditions the inheritance to works 1) Rev 21:7 .."He who conquers shall have this inheritace" B) Once again the master arquitect shows the reality 1) We are more than conquerors Rom 8:37 2) Through God we are sons and heirs Gal 4:6-7 VII) THE MARRIAGE OF CHRIST A) John speaks of this in a future sense..something that has to happen. 1) Rev 19:7 B) Paul says that this was a mistery and that Christ and his church are already one 1) "..This is a great mistery, and I take it to mean Christ and the church.." Ephe 5:31-32 2) We are already united with christ. .."..But he who is united to the lord becomes one spirit with him"..1Cor 6:17 VIII) THE LAKE OF FIRE A) John presented the lake of fire as a place of eternal torment. 1) Rev 20:10 (see note below) B) Paul said hell was not prepared for the children. 1) No codemnation for those in Jesus (Rom 8:1) 2) God did not destine us for wrath..1Tes 5:9 Note: It is worthwile to mention that the same Lake of Fire that John spoke about, was also mentioned by the apostle Jude, whom was also an apostle of the cicumcision like John. Let us see what he says in verse 7..Jude compares it to Sodom and Gomor'rah and the surrounding cities ...let us then make reference to Gen 19:24..with the brimstone and fire....see verse 29 It says that this brimstone and fire destroyed the cities....now!?...if destroyed How can it be eternal?...for notice that all matter decomposes and it is transformed...like wise hell is not an eternal place but a place where things cease to exist. It is also worthwile to know that the Apostle Paul never spoke of hell or the lake of fire..... We declare you submitted not to the Disciple but to the Master Arquitect and founder of the work, the Apostle Paul. .....Remember you are Blessed with every Spiritual blessing. *The Continuation of Paul's Ministry* http://www.growingingracespanish.com/


Date:
25 Mar 2002
Time:
13:42:30
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I believe that an important thing to remember is letting the Holy Spirit (the Spirit of truth) descern what's right and what's wrong... I believe in the past fulfillment of Christ. I believe in the past fulfillment of Christ. Without the Holy Spirit coming over those who believe in a "Great Escape," we can't do anything. I personally would like to ask what the message of the cross is with a great escape? I believe in a "Great Exchange." -Kyle-


Date:
26 Mar 2002
Time:
19:35:20
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In response to 19 March 2002 Are you sure that the apostle John was the author of the book of revelation? scholars of greek in the early centuries concur that the style of greek of revaltion and the style of greek of the gospel of John and the John epistles are not similar! what about the possibility it was John Mark who was the only person of the NT to be a full legal heir to the 4 chief tribes


Date:
30 Mar 2002
Time:
02:42:45
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The most disturbing thing I find in the debate regarding the preterist/futurist debate is that those who have come out of the belief of dispensationalism are assumed to have been deluded. That there was no serious study on their part to understand what Scripture teaches, even if it flies in the face of long held traditions and teaching. Futurists label preterists heretics without questioning the preterist, not solely on doctrine, but on the spirit and on the journey the person has made which has led to this new paradigm. I would like to see more futurists wanting to understand the heart of the preterist, before condemning them to hell.


Date:
02 Apr 2002
Time:
23:17:45
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jack van impe and rexella need to do more reading in the holy scriptures and not try to understand the bible in a 20th century western civilization mindset. Even secondary history that is being taught in public schools tell us about how the romans destroyed Jerusalem in 70 ad. How the great famine came upon the land and that is the exact reason why the Jews started cooking there own children and killing each other because the romans surrounded them in a eagle formation which is spoken of in the old testament. another thing is that Jesus makes reference to the judgement of that generation of vipers they killed the prophets not us, they had a temple system not us so what jack, creflo dollar, all of tbn, roman catholics, presbytirians, baptist, some apostolic\holiness buildings and people are totally wrong you cant be in the body of christ and dont give Jesus the glory. Jesus even said some of them standing there would see him coming when he judged those hebrew people. by anyone denying the promise that Jesus fulfilled what he said is total opposite to Jesus. so what you didn't see it the kingdom of God came without observation. Alot of people wasn't around during slavery or alexander the great but we aknowledge that it is truth, but when we get to Jesus word we cant seem to give him the respect of what he said because we dont understand. jack learn hebrew language and may ask have you read the old testament lately.


Date:
09 Apr 2002
Time:
08:13:35
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Some of the above comments are helpful in sorting out the Preterist position, but for the most part I find many of the comments lacking "grace". I have always had a problem with Jack Van Impe's dispensational views. I find dispensationalism full of questionable assertions. However, the Preterist position presents its own set of hard to get my head around teachings. In my study of escatology, I believe it is important to approach the subject with humility and watch our attitude towards the brethern who have prayerfully and sincerely come to different conclusions in their search for answers to many perplexing questions. Escatology should be a comfort in death, a challenge to holiness and evangelism while providing the Christian with real hope in a world in the grip of dispair and sin. As for me, I am looking at the Preterist position with reservations and interest. I am actually surprised to find out how many godly men hold to this position. In some senses, the Preterist position makes sense - re: the promises of Jesus to return quickly. On the otherhand, I have questions about the nature of Christ's return. I cannot turn away from Acts 1:11 and Rev 1:7 where the clear statement of scripture indicate a clear visible bodily return of Christ to be witnessed by Christ's followers and the whole world. At this time, personally I look for the coming of Christ, at which time it will be all over - the rapture of the Church and the world judged. Sin will be banished. There will be a new heavens and earth. No laughing allowed. It is my sincere position. It is as plain as day in the sciptures. Can't you see it? (Ha! Ha!) PTL! Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the world will know that we are Christians not by our escatological position but by the love we have for one another. Please leave escatological arrogance at the door. John Goulet-Jones Lover of Jesus


Date:
10 Apr 2002
Time:
00:31:02

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These are the comments of "a great theologian"? No, they are knee-jerk, populist and shallow.


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03 May 2002
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16:55:26
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how do you answer him?


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03 May 2002
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16:55:50

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how do you answer him? )Van Impe)


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11 May 2002
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Jack Van Impe is right on you preterists are way out in left field what about the 200,000 man army rev 9:16 the one world goverment Rev 13 the one world religion Rev 17


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25 May 2002
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27 May 2002
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09:33:35

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Your "End of the World" page says this: "Nothing can be more misleading to the English reader, than the rendering, 'the end of the world;' which inevitably suggests the close of human history, the end of time, and the destruction of the earth -- a meaning which the words will not bear. . . . What can be more evident than that the promise of Christ to be with his disciples to the close of the age implies that they were to live to the close of the age ? That great consummation was not far off ; the Lord had often spoken of it, and always as an approaching event, one which some of them would live to lice. It was the winding up of the Mosaic dispensation; the end of the long probation of the theocratic nation; when the whole frame and fabric of the Jewish polity were to be swept away, and the kingdom of God to come with power. This great event, our Lord declared, was to fall within the limit of the existing generation." (The Parousia, p. 121.) My question is: did ALL the disciples live through the fall of Jerusalem? If not, which ones died before that time? Thank you for clarifying this for me. Allen


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05 Jun 2002
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22:13:16
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some other verses to consider such as this one: matthew 16 : 28 "I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man soming in his kingdom.


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27 Jun 2002
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15:43:27

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FOR SOME 30 YEARS I WAS FED (AND BELIEVED) THE THEORY OF DISPENSATIONALISM BEING PREACHED FROM THE PULPIT. IN A PENTECOSTAL BIBLE COLLEGE THAT I ATTENDED, THE DD'S AND PROFS' TOLD A STUDENT TO "SIT DOWN AND STOP ASKING QUESTIONS." WHAT HE WAS QUESTIONING THEM ON WAS PRETERIST THEOLOGY. I KNEW FOR A CERTAINTY THEN, THAT DISPENSATIONALISM WAS UNFOUNDED / WITHOUT SUBSTANCE AND ANTI-SCRIPTURAL. TODAY, MY LOVE AND APPRECIATION FOR THE DEPTHS OF GOD'S WORD CAN NEVER AGAIN BE BOUND BY "GALATIAN IMPRISONMENT" OF AN IDEOLOGY THAT CRIPPLES THE SPIRIT.....ONWARD TO VICTORY MARCHES THE KINGDOM OF GOD .....THANK YOU LORD


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27 Jun 2002
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15:43:43
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FOR SOME 30 YEARS I WAS FED (AND BELIEVED) THE THEORY OF DISPENSATIONALISM BEING PREACHED FROM THE PULPIT. IN A PENTECOSTAL BIBLE COLLEGE THAT I ATTENDED, THE DD'S AND PROFS' TOLD A STUDENT TO "SIT DOWN AND STOP ASKING QUESTIONS." WHAT HE WAS QUESTIONING THEM ON WAS PRETERIST THEOLOGY. I KNEW FOR A CERTAINTY THEN, THAT DISPENSATIONALISM WAS UNFOUNDED / WITHOUT SUBSTANCE AND ANTI-SCRIPTURAL. TODAY, MY LOVE AND APPRECIATION FOR THE DEPTHS OF GOD'S WORD CAN NEVER AGAIN BE BOUND BY "GALATIAN IMPRISONMENT" OF AN IDEOLOGY THAT CRIPPLES THE SPIRIT.....ONWARD TO VICTORY MARCHES THE KINGDOM OF GOD .....THANK YOU LORD


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29 Jun 2002
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05:51:37
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The problem with modern prophets is that they take everything in the book of Revelation literal. If you take one thing literal you have to take everything literal. John was "in the Spirit" when he had the visions and wrote it down as he saw it and most of it already came to pass. If you expect a real mark, you have to expect a real beast rising out of the literal sea. They simply interpret it in the flesh and not in the spirit it was written.The problem is that most 'prophecy' or 'prophetic' writings are written with a apocolyptic view or interpration in mind and the result is a interpretation to arrive at the desired conclusion. The term 'apocolypse' simply means 'unveiling' or reveiling - it is the unveiling or revealing of Christ to the world of Adam. Men have speculated over this for ages and got into all sorts of error. They take John's remarks of the antichrist and bring it into revelation and forget conveniently, that John says "that he is already in the world, and even now many antichrists have come.." (my own paraphrase) - Antichrist simply means instead of Christ. All of us operate in that spirit prior to getting to know Christ, only then does the antichrist spirit leave (they went out from us, for if they were of us they would have continued with us). The other game is the prophecies of Daniel, nowhere is there an indication of a break or an interval between the fullness of weeks. Nowhere does the bible indicate a one world government, that is a figment of a fertile imagination to keep God's people in fear. In Daniel 2 we read of the vision of Nebucanezzar and we saw the interpretation and know in history that we had all the different empires that ruled the world in history - this teaching is too long for now- but the last one was the the Roman empire that ruled the whole world. After that others tried, Hitler, Mussolini, etc. but failed - all because of one verse (verse42) the last empire (the roman) was scattered into 10 kingdoms or nations in Europe and the word says that they shall not hold together - they will never come into harmony even as iron does not mingle itself with clay. You may have seen attempts to bring this to pass, but it will never succeed, because God has declared it. The 666 only means that man has come to the fullness of what he can do without God, and even now we see a move towards humanism like never before, man is again becoming his own god,even in Christian cirles we see deception and lying, and the 'fleecing' of God's sheep for their own properity. Another scripture that is used is the 'abomination of desolation" or the man of sin sitting in the temple of God as God. This is why many have to see a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. What they miss is that the spirit of man sits in the temple of God (the body) "for do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit?" before meeting Christ. The next part is totally ignored where it says in 2 Thess. 2:3,4,7-8 ....for the mystery of iniquity does already work, only he who now lets will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then the wicked shall be revealed, whom the Lord shall destroy with the brightness of His coming. His revealing is his destruction. To think that God will vacate this temple to again dwell in a temple made with hands is nothing short of blasphemy, Jesus himself said "behold your house is left desolate" and when he died on the cross the veil was rent from top to bottom to indicate that God is not there anymore, yet the priest still continued in sacrifices and service as if nothing happened. The anichrist system or antichrist is that which is instead of Christ and we see that in many mainstream religiouns - where "they look like a lamb but speak like a dragon" they look like real ministers of Christ but preach a different gospel, a different Jesus and that is where the deception is. If you like I can do a whole teaching on the deception of the rapture and antichrist theology. God bless Danie Rossouw


Date:
29 Jun 2002
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18:31:00
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I enjoy Jack Van Impe Presents at least they are not preaching like the liers that are other tele-evangelists


Date:
03 Jul 2002
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00:40:49
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no offense...but the preterist view is rather...odd. and for what i've understood so far it's also wrong. i don't know whether to believe in the rapture or not but to think the world "ended" (for lack of a better word) in a.d. 70...is a little silly...but if it did...where is Jesus and why am i still here? i would like an answer to that.


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10 Jul 2002
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first of all i believe the bible and if there is no other recorded evidence on these things if the bible says that the desciples will see christ come back (matt 16:28) i believe the bible with all my heart and i do believe christ did not lie to the deciples AS HE DIDN'T LIE to the high priest in (matt 26:64) so weather there is documented evidence or not i believe the Bible to be true and thats that


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15 Jul 2002
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13:47:04
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From a charismatic evangelical partial preterist: When evangelicals teach on the epistles, they say, "See, the apostles mistakenly believed that the Lord would physically return within their generation." They quote numerous phrases which the apostles wrote to support that view. Some of those phrases are found in the Thessalonian epistles, the Corinthian epistles, and elsewhere in the New Testament. But, then when they teach on Revelations, and other parts of the New Testmant, they say, "See, the apostles wrote about things which were to occur several millennia, in the future. See, here in Revelations, the seven churches represent the seven church ages. And, all of Revelations will happen after the last church age. Then the Lord will come." Hey, as a charismatic evangelical believer, I would like to ask everyone why we are teaching two conflicting views. It is even in many of the textbooks. They explain the apostles references to a soon coming return, as a mistaken assumption on the part of the apostles. But, in other parts of the same textbook, they say both Jesus and the apostles supposedly spoke of things which were to occur thousands of years in the future. Well, if the apostles mistakenly thought that the Lord was about to return in their own generation, then HOW could they have even thought about events which were to take place several millenia in the future? And, if evangelicals really believe that the apostles were writing about things several millenia in the future, then why do they explain a number of passages of Scripture, by saying that the apostles mistakenly thought the Lord was about to come? Why are evangelicals teaching it both ways? The answer is because some of their beliefs are so compartmentalized, that they don't even realize that they are teaching things which are self contradictory. Also, evangelicals fail to take into serious account Hebrews 8, Jeremiah 30-31, and the words of our Lord when he said "this is the cup of the New Covenant made in My blood for the remission of sins, of many". In both the Old Testament Hebrew prophecy which the Lord was alluding to (Jeremiah 30-31), and the New Testament Greek texts found in the gospels, the Greek word "new" means qualitatively new. It refers to something new in quality which is brought in as a replacement for something which is worn out, worthless, and fit to be thrown away. In the eight chapter of Hebrews, the writer very clearly explains that when Jeremiah uttered the words that God would make a "new covenant" with the house of Israel, that very statement revealed that the present old covenant was worn out, worthless, and ready to be discarded. Also, in the eight chapter of Hebrews, it is very clearly stated that God disregarded that covenant made with the Jews, because they DID NOT CONTINUE in it. When Jesus said this is the cup of the New Covenant made in His blood, it was not installed along side the Old Covenant, but in place of it. According to the epistles,(this can be verified in many places; Romans 7:1-12, Collosians, Hebrews, etc), the old covenant was nailed to the cross and done aways with, when Jesus was crucified. In fact, when He died the very veil of the holiest of holies was supernaturally torn in two. Today, there is only one covenant available to the Jews, and that is the New Covenant in Christ's blood. Whether they enter into that covenant, or not, is up to them. Nevertheless, most evangelicals refuse to acknowledge any of Paul's teachings, concerning these things. They disregard the words of the New Testament and, instead, revert to the Old Testament promises concerning Israel, as if that covenant was still in force. Do evangelicals not understand what the New Covenant in Christ's blood means? Do they not understand what happened at the cross, and what Paul so clearly enunciated in his epistles? Is God ever again going to be pleased with the blood of cows? That is blasphemous. Yet, when it comes to Israel, evangelicals revert back to the old covenant, as though it were still in force. They want to extoll the promised blessings of the old covenant, upon Israel. All the while, they willfully forget that that covenant is no longer in force. God said that He disregarded that covenant because the Jews did not continue in it. To hear evangelicals go back to the old covenant, in reference to Israel, is sort of like hearing a divorced wife, who became a prostitute, go back to her first husband, saying "but you promised that you would always love me, so give me some money." What good is a marital blessing, or promise, after a divorce? Also, evangelicals fail to explain what Paul really taught, in his epistles, about the seed of Abraham. His teachings are found in the fourth chapter of Romans, and the third chapter of Galations. They fail to teach why Jesus told the Jews that IF they were the children of Abraham, then they would love him. The question remains, if they do not love Him, then are they the seed of Abraham? What would Jesus say? In the fourth chapter of Romans, Paul makes it clear that the seed would not be reckoned according to the law, but according to faith. Are the Jews who rejected Christ the seed of Abraham according to faith? In the third chapter of Galations Paul also makes it clear that those of us who are in Christ, are the seed of Abraham. The epistles to the Corinthians, and to the Hebrews, both give the promise of the land of Canaan as a type of spiritual realities which are now found in Christ. Yet, today evangelicals overlook all of this, and try to fall back upon the Old Testamant types and shadows. Today, there are evangelicals who say that we should not witness to the Jews, because they will not be saved until the end. Yet, Jesus Himself told the high priest of Israel, "unless you believe in me, you will die in your sins." So, should the church follow Christ's example, or not? Today, some evangelicals teach that good Jews are "our brother's in the covenant", and they are going to heaven with us. What Bible do they read? Paul himself said that he wished he were accursed from Christ for his brethren's sake. None of the apostles, or the Lord, ever said good Jews were going to heaven for being good Jews. Today, some evangelicals teach that the Jews have "their own special covenant" with God. The book of Hebrews makes it very clear that God has made the New Covenant (in Christ's blood) with the house of Israel. Whether or not they accept that is up to them. But, it does not say that they have their "own special covenant." Why all of the gross heresy among evangelicals? Because they fail to study the Bible. And, one deception leads to a little more deception. Eventually, if we are not careful, we may have evangelicals trying to circumsize people, and saying that if they are not circumsized, then they will go to hell. Also, evangelicals teach that when the disciples stood with the Lord on the Mount of Olives, they asked him about His second coming by asking, "what shall be the sign of your coming, and of the end of the age?" Yet, evangelicals also admit that the disciples could not understand that Jesus must be crucified. The disciples did not believe that He would be raised from the dead. And, they had no idea that He would be with them forty days, and then ascend to heaven. Even at the last supper they asked Him, "Lord where are you going?" So, if the disciples understood none of this beforehand, than how could the disciples have been asking questions about the "second advent", a week before the crucixion? In fact, how can anyone even think that the disciples knew of the second advent a week before the crucifixion? How can anyone say that they even understood the ressurection, the forty days, and the assencion, a week before the crucifixion? Also, the disciples question concerning the sign of His coming, and of the end of the age, was in response to a statement made by the Messiah. He said that not one stone of the temple would be left upon another. Upon hearing that statement, they immediatley asked what would be the sign of His coming, and of the end of the age. In the original Greek New Testament, there are 61 different Greek words which were translated "come", or some similar form of "come", such as "coming", or "cometh". The person who told the disciples that the temple, and Israel, would be destroyed was not an enemy, it was not a Roman, but it was the Messiah Himself. Yet, the Messiah, Jesus Christ, was not in a position of world rulership when He spoke with the disciples on the Mount Olives. When He said that the temple would be destroyed, what did the disciples think that He was saying? What did they think that He meant? And, why did they ask what would be the sign of His coming, and of the end of the age, in response to his statement about the destruction of the the temple? Instead of asking relevant questions like this, evangelicals simply view the word "coming", and automatically assume that the disciples were referring to the "second advent", which is something that the disciples most certainly did not even know about a week prior to the crucifixion. I have a few dozen questions which I would like to ask every evangelical-Scofieldist scholar, and every charismatic scholar, in America. And, many of my questions involve numerous New Testament passages which evangelicals, fundamentalists, and charismatics, never touch. I used to wonder why so much of the New Testament was always neglected, while other portions have been continually replayed, like a broken record, for decades. I think the answer for the neglect is that if ministers began to study the whole book, and not just pet doctrines, then many of the present day faulty teachings would become endangered by a greater understanding of the truth.


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01 Aug 2002
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09:24:22

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"Baloney" is hardly a theological refutation. Should we say "pepperoni" to Mr. Van Impe's ideas?


Date:
25 Sep 2002
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15:19:53

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Crazy stuff.


Date:
27 Sep 2002
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01:58:12
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Jack is the prophet.


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15 Oct 2002
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23:07:39
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Well, Rexella and Jack are quite far out people themselves! For example, these "literalists" take the liberty of seeing automobiles prophesied in Nahum 2:4, a verse clearly describing chariots. Indeed the context of this verse is the overthrow of Assyrian Nineveh. And that happened long ago, even long before 70 A.D.! If only the false prophesies of the Van Impe-types came to an end a long time ago! Even so, if God predestined these false prophets as a test for His people, then let us accept the challenge, and rebut their denial of Christ's present Kingdom! Your brother in Christ, Stephen DeLany


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17 Oct 2002
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14:19:02
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I believe Dr? Van Impe to be a sincere and dedicated Christian communicator. Yet here he is, devoting his entire ministry to the most bazaar and rediculous eschatology imaginable. Now if this isn't enough, he focuses the later years opposing Biblical truth. Irony doesn't get any better than this. It would be interesting to do a psycological profile on our good friend Jack. It will help us to see the things we should avoid in our own lives. Where has he failed, both personally and publicly, to the point that God would give him up to such foolishness? A.E.C.


Date:
21 Oct 2002
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12:31:23

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I once espoused the doctrines of Dispensationalism untill....I started reading and studying the scriptures. The thing that bothered me was this turning THIS on and turning THAT off with no scripture warrant. Since embracing the Preterist viewpoint due to the complete warrant of scripture, I reject the Impe's Doctrines! Get a hold of the book called the Parousia by J. Stuart Russell (not related to Charles T Russell of the JW's). Titus 2:11-14 Dispensationalist's! dduncan@itt-tech.edu


Date:
25 Oct 2002
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22:11:45

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Well the only people who have to worry about Jack, and Rexella are those who will not read their Bibles. Jack states that Matthew 24 is the same as Luke 21, and can not see they have been fullfilled in the first century? Watch real close. Jack and his wife Miss Plastic surgery have one thing in mind, and that is money. They do not believe a word of what they are saying on the tube. I have shared the truth about Matthew 24, and Luke 21, and Luke 19, and Mark 13 with individuals. All men and women see these truths. Friends believe me, you that know these truths know I am telling you the truth. You have seen it on a persons face when you share it with them. They see it, real crystal clear. But then they do either of two things, they accept it, or they reject it. But when they reject it they can never read the Bible the same again. Never. The Truth keeps screaming at them. They will never be able to drown out Truth. When I first saw it I tried to expalin it away. But the Truth is the Truth. You have to face it sooner or later. Jacko and Rexella know this Truth, and when they put on their fake smiles for the fans in never never land. The Word of God is reminding them that they are not telling the Truth. Oh they are loving the money that is flowing in, they are laughing every step to the bank. But the scriptures of the Word is dogging their steps. Truth is tracking true. It is all over the place, and Jack and the rest of the Doomsday Gang is feeling the heat. 2003 is coming, and the Truth is right there screaming out loud to all that will hear. One World Boogie Man Preachers, and Micro Chip Mark of The Beast False Prophets are seeing the writing on the Wall. The Finger of God is telling them that their clock is ticking. People are getting Truth, and shutting off Jack, and Rexella, people are asking them hard questions, and all they have to reply with are empty words.


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26 Oct 2002
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13:49:19

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(LAUGHTER)


Date:
29 Oct 2002
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08:46:40

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Duped Christian Zionists don't understand that God's special relationship with the temporary and merely typifying OT, natural Israel ended forever at the first advent of Christ, the true, spiritual and eternal Israel. Futuristic Zionists believe that special relationship will be resumed in an imminent Jewish millennium. Preteristic Zionists believe that relationship continued during a 40-year Jewish millennium (AD 30-70). Both beliefs are false and demeaning. When an OT type was fulfilled, the type passed away forever.


Date:
05 Nov 2002
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13:16:33

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I suggest everyone read "Right Behind". It is a comical look at the Left Behind series and will have you in stitches reading it. The book is written by Nathan Wilson (a partial preterist, if I understand correctly), and his wit and satire in relationship to the goofyness of the Left Behind series is totally histerical. Question; If the dispensationalist view is true, why did it take 1800 years before anyone in church history held that position? No early church fathers (at least to my knowledge) held to anything dispensational.


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19 Nov 2002
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20:00:10

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I think it's funny when a man of this caliber attempts to refute a view that he doesn't even do the research to understand opposing arguments, and any simple minded person that is not twisted into the dispensationalist hypnotism knows that his arguments just gives himself an overhelming amount of credits towards ignorance.


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15 Dec 2002
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18:58:21

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Let's look at a third possibility. Maybe all the prophecy in the bible has been fulfilled and we like the Jews of Christs day are so busy arguing about religious viewpoints that we have forgotten what is really important....Seeking the face of our God. We have recieved the greatest gift that has ever been given and in gratitude for that gift we fight amongst ourselves? Shame on us. I pray that the God of Israel will show mercy on us all!


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31 Dec 2002
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14:07:49

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31 Dec 2002
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14:13:35

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you preterist are sad . what do you have to hope for. the bible is litiral I think the majority of you are following satans plans perfectly to brainwash the world so when the rapture happens you idiots will be saying we died and went to hell.on that day you all will know that what you been believeing is a lie.maybe some of you know the lord but the only one assuring you of your beliefs is satan not god.


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14 Jan 2003
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08:03:18

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Mr. Van Impe does not even attempt a serious refutation of preterism. He does not deal with the fact that the book of Revelation is symbolic. Sad. Worse still is the fact that most, if not all, of his followers will not check for themselves. In all likelyhood they will just accept what he says and leave it at that. Truly sad! Darryl Trapp highplainschristian@yahoo.com


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24 Jan 2003
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16:53:33

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As to the person who said why did the earth remain? Remember in the days of Noah, "the whole earth was destroyed" - yet we are still here, It is not talking of the globe as they suppose but a system. IN the same way when "heaven and earht passed away" it is symbolic of one sytem or way of government passing away and being replaced by another, (Judaism and the old covenant passed away and was replaced by the new) I suggest that all these people who accept the theology of a coming destruction start searching the scriptures and get some traineed pastors and teachers to teach them and not just believe everything they are taught in church circles. Danie Rossouw


Date:
12 Feb 2003
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20:21:36

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I see very little in the way of biblical refutation here. I only see personal attacks. Try putting your bible where your theory is.


Date:
12 Feb 2003
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21:06:24

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Here is a little bible to go with the name calling. The rapture is a resurrection of those "in Christ" (1 Thess. 4:13-18). Isn't it a little bit odd that in Rev. 19:11-21, which is the clearest picture of the second coming of Christ, there is no mention of a resurrection? The rapture will be the biggest event since the resurrection of Jesus where hundreds of millions of Christians will be resurrected and translated, yet there isn't any mention here. Don't you think it deserves at least one verse? The rapture isn't mentioned because it doesn't happen at the second coming. Zechariah 14:1-15 doesn't mention a resurrection. This is an Old Testament picture of Jesus returning to earth at the second coming. Again, no mention of a resurrection. In the Old Testament, there were two different pictures painted of the Messiah—one suffering (Isa. 53:2-10, Ps. 22:6-8, 11-18) and one reigning as King (Ps. 2:6-12, Zech. 14:9,16). As we look back on these scriptures, we see they predicted two separate comings of the Messiah—the 1st coming as a suffering Messiah and the 2nd coming (still future) as a reigning King. In the New Testament, we have another picture added. Again, we have two pictures painted which don’t look the same. These two different descriptions of Jesus’ coming point to two separate events we call "the rapture" and "the second coming." Concerning the return of Jesus, the Bible presents a day we can't know and a day we can know. Matthew 25:13 says Jesus will return at an unknown time, while Revelation 12:6 says the Jews will have to wait 1,260 days for the Lord to return. The 1,260 days begins when the Antichrist stands in the Temple and declares himself to be God (Matt. 24:15-21, 2 Thess. 2:4) This event will take place at the mid-point of the seven year Tribulation (Dan 9:27). The Antichrist has authority to rule for 42 months, which is 1,260 days (Rev. 13:4) and will be destroyed by Jesus at His second coming (Rev. 19:20, 2 Thess. 2:8). The known and unknown days must happen at different times, meaning they are two separate events. The door in heaven is opened to let John into heaven. We believe John's call into heaven is prophetic of the church being caught up at the rapture (see proof #6). In Revelation 19:11, heaven is opened again, this time to let the armies which are already in heaven out. This is the Church, which has been raptured at a previous time, following Jesus out of heaven at the second coming. A voice called for the apostle John to "Come up here," and immediately he was in heaven. This could be a prophetic reference to the rapture of the Church. The words "Come up here" are spoken to the two witnesses who are killed in the middle of the Tribulation, who are resurrected and ascend into heaven (Rev. 11:12). Therefore, the phrase "Come up here" could mean the church is raptured in Rev. 4:1. The word "church" is mentioned 22 times in Rev. 1-3, but is not mentioned again until Rev. 22:17. After John is called up into heaven, he sees the 24 elders with their crowns (Rev. 4:4-10). We know that Christians will receive their rewards (crowns) at the rapture (2 Tim. 4:8, 1 Pet. 5:4). We will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous (Luke 14:14). The elders couldn't receive their crowns unless the resurrection (rapture) has taken place. The armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, follow Jesus out of heaven at His second coming (Rev. 19:14, Zech. 14:5, Col. 3:4). These are not angels because Rev. 19:8 tells us the fine linen is the righteousness of the saints. In order to come out of heaven we first have to go in, indicating a previous rapture. Revelation 3:10 says we will be kept out of the hour of testing which will come upon the whole earth (the Tribulation). Some have wrongly believed "keep" means to keep through, or protect through the Tribulation. Suppose you approach a high voltage area with a sign that says, "Keep Out." Does that mean you can enter and be protected? No, it means you are forbidden from entering the area. But this verse also says He will keep us from the hour of testing. It is not just the testing, but the time period. If a student is excused from a test, he still may have to sit in the class while others take the test. But if he is excused from the hour of testing, he can go home. The Church will be called home before the hour of testing. When the angels are sent forth to gather the elect at the second coming (Matt. 24:29-31), some have wrongly interpreted this as the rapture. There is one huge problem with this interpretation. If we are resurrected at this time, why would we need angels to gather us? In the resurrection, we will be like the angels (Matt. 22:30), able to travel in the air at will. Obviously, these people who are gathered are not resurrected, therefore it can't be the rapture. No one would claim the wicked are raptured at this time, yet Matthew 13:39-41, 49 says the angels will not only gather the elect, but also the wicked. This gathering is not a resurrection. First Thessalonians 4:13-17 says the righteous are taken and the wicked are left behind. Matthew 13:30, 49 says the wicked are taken first and righteous are left behind. This points to two separate events, the rapture and the second coming. When Jesus returns to earth at the second coming, He will return from a wedding (Luke 12:36). At the rapture, Jesus is married to His bride, the Church. After the wedding, He will return to earth. Jesus said He would prepare a place for the Church in heaven, then He would come again to receive us to Himself. Why would Jesus prepare a place for us in heaven and then not take us there? At the rapture, He will come to receive us to Himself, "that where I am (heaven), there you may be also." If the rapture occurred at the same time as the second coming, we would go up to the clouds and then immediately come back to earth. That would contradict John 14:2-3. In 2 Thess. 2:6-7, Paul says "the one who restrains will be taken out of the way" before the Antichrist can be revealed. We believe this refers to the rapture because the Church is clearly the biggest obstacle to the Antichrist becoming a world ruler. If the rapture occurred at the second coming, why would the sheep and the goats need to be separated immediately after the second coming? A rapture at the second coming would have already separated the sheep and the goats. With a Pre-Tribulation rapture, the people saved after the rapture will need to be separated after the second coming. If the rapture occurs at the second coming and the wicked are cast into hell at that time, who will be left to populate the millennium? Only people in their natural (non-resurrected) bodies will be able to have children (Matt. 22:30). With a Pre-Tribulation rapture, the people saved after the rapture who are alive at the second coming will populate the earth during the Millennium.


Date:
12 Feb 2003
Time:
21:22:25

Comments

It mite supprise you to find out that there are some serious Bible students who adhere to the Dispensationalist point of view. Indeed we are the fastest growing segment of christianity.


Date:
15 Feb 2003
Time:
18:00:40

Comments

Acts 12:7 7 And, behold, the angel of the Lord came upon him, and a light shined in the prison: and he smote Peter on the side, and raised him up, saying, Arise up quickly. And his chains fell off from his hands. KJV Rev 1:1 Revelation 1 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: KJV NT:5034 tachos (takh'-os); from the same as NT:5036; a brief space (of time), i.e. (with NT:1722 prefixed) in haste: KJV - quickly, shortly, speedily. (Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright (c) 1994, Biblesoft and International Bible Translators, Inc.) NT:1722 en (en); a primary preposition denoting (fixed) position (in place, time or state), and (by implication) instrumentality (medially or constructively), i.e. a relation of rest (intermediate between NT:1519 and NT:1537); "in," at, (up-) on, by, etc.: KJV - about, after, against, almost, altogether, among, as, at, before, between, (here-) by (+all means), for (... sake of), giveself wholly to, (here-) in (-to, -wardly), mightily, (because) of, (up-) on, [openly-], outwardly, one, quickly, shortly, [speedily-], that, there (-in, -on), through (-out), (un-) to (-ward), under, when, where (-with), while, with (-in). Often used in compounds, with substantially the same import; rarely with verbs of motion, and then not to indicate direction, except (elliptically) by a separate (and different) preposition. (Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright (c) 1994, Biblesoft and International Bible Translators, Inc.) Look up quickly in Acts 12:7 and the word shortly in Rev 1:1. Both words are Tachos #5034 prefixed with en #1722. How can Acts 12:7 mean right now and Rev 1:1 mean 2000 plus years? Allan Johnson--McArthur, OH


Date:
31 Mar 2003
Time:
16:20:46

Comments

After reading all your posts here is the tone I get. Yes, you are preterists. Yes, you are Christians. No, you are not followers of Jesus.


Date:
01 Apr 2003
Time:
08:37:49

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Hi, my name is Joshua Brown and I'm doing a research paper on the Bible code/Revelations ect... I would appreciate it if you could send some info on these topics, thank you! Sincerely, Joshua Brown


Date:
01 Apr 2003
Time:
08:39:12

Comments

This is Josh Brown again, I forgot my e-mail (gdbplus3@MSN.com)


Date:
04 Apr 2003
Time:
08:00:11

Comments

Right on Jack


Date:
15 Apr 2003
Time:
01:02:06

Comments

Do you have an idea on who Mabus realy is.


Date:
27 Apr 2003
Time:
21:38:17

Comments

jack is doing the lords work .


Date:
16 May 2003
Time:
21:53:24

Comments

Jack Impie needs to study. Do these guys go to school? Are they this stupid or are they lying? I am of the Amill eschatology. I am a predestinationalist. I am studying my Greek Grammar and the Bible about 25 hours a week on the average. I don't know as much as Robertson(The Greek Scholar) not the man with the crystal ball, but I can see these people are getting rich knowing little Bible. How come no one is preaching the doctrines of election? 200 years ago we didn't have 'free-will' Protestant Churches. O.K., I like the fact that you Preterist make my Amill stand sturdier:) Learning what Scriptures have happened and which are to come is good. If I don't agree on all prophecy's-big deal, If I agree and have learned, Praise God! It is late and I am tired, Blessings, Donnie


Date:
27 May 2003
Time:
15:13:27

Comments

Most importantly I am a Born-again blood bought child of God saved by my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Raised as a Pentecostal and then became very Baptistic in my doctrine. At this time I am someone who Loves to serve my Lord and Savior and fail Him everyday. I feel Preterism makes the Bible a complete Book with no other options as Christ Himself is complete. I also know the Lord tells us not to cast pearls before swine and if we will grow we will realize that sometimes the swine can be a saved person. Stop attacking and debating someones salvation that is between him and our Lord. Continue to debate Jack's viewpoint but allow Jesus to decide who is saved. And by the way the Holy Spirit is the only one who will change a persons viewpoint so present your case and then leave it to Jesus and continue to spread the good news. In His Presence, Paul


Date:
31 May 2003
Time:
01:37:57

Comments

First, to the person who wrote: “Here is a little bible to go with the name calling," thank you, and God bless you beyond measure. Believers in Christ, Any of us can get caught up in the bias or one ism or another--so much of the psychology of this is really about human nature and the depravity of mankind to do and see and know things according to his/her own sense of reasoning. Right relationship with Christ--intimacy with Him in His Word and with the Holy Spirit is the only clear and faithful way of getting to His truth--for he is "full of Grace AND Truth." Understanding the unity of all Holy Scripture as well as understanding the quintessential promise of the resurrection--which certainly Old and New Testament time Jews believed--is the key. I agree with Jack Van Impe also in that I do not believe the world will be utterly destroyed as in annihilation. Annihilation has never been the way of God with regard to man--consider the purpose of Hell even beyond justice and penalty of sin. Annihilation of soul and spirit is an issue of cultism, say, for example, Jehovah's Witnesses. It is not the way of Yahweh, Jehovah God of The Bible. When He made us in His image--that is a spirit--at once, He made us infinite like Him--that is, our essential spirits--the real us. But our God is a God of the resurrection who wastes nothing. Nature demonstrates quite well how God renews and does not waste. As Christ died yet was resurrected in perfect eternal bodily form together with His Spirit---fused together in perfect unity--yet only holding marks that He as God chose to hold for His redeemed children-- (Whether Jew, Gentile, male, female, bond or free, Greek, African, whatever race of people--to those children who have opened their hearts to receive that which God has done for them and revealed to and in them By His Word and Holy Spirit)--there in this perfection He ascending to heaven, not in spirit only but in resurrected/perfected wholeness. And "We shall be like Him." He will resurrect and rapture those in Him, and not only that, He will purify and resurrect His creation, the world..."world without end." God is the only true and holy God and as such is a God of unity. His has weaved the prophecies in completeness, and through them all, they point to and speak of Him, Messiah, Savior, Jesus, the Christ. Only God's hand of grace holds back what will inevitably come when, for a time, His grace is removed. His body of true believers--the true church--not one made up of denominations but the one composed of those in true fellowship and relationship with Him, these are they that make up the Bride of Christ. The symbols of marriage and its necessity of purity and unity had/have pragmatic purposes for family and procreation, but moreover, they speak of the oneness and unity between God and those in Him. Ultimately, agape love is agape love; regardless of what relationship it is housed in or named. The symbolism is pure in its own crystal pure nature--from the heart and mind of God Himself. The imperfect and fallen thinking processes of mankind taint his symbolisms. "...To those who are pure, all things are pure." The Body of Christ is His bride while also being God The Father's children through and in Christ--and it is in that unity and completeness in Him we are one as in one eternal family of God. And this "forever family" of God is a condition and state where the law of God that reigns is love, for indeed all His laws of holiness are all about and for love. Truly, "...His law is love and His gospel is peace." as that last verse of "O Holy Night" declares. His family isn't a family of isms but rather of perfect, agape love in and with Him. God does relate and weave symbolism as well as literalism in His truths. He is not restricted by the inferior minds and limited conceptualizations of men and women who would seek to tell Him what His purpose, plan and prophecies are all about. Neither is He limited by time as we all know and think and are ever so controlled and confused by it. It add good control to our thinking and at the same time, it so limits our thinking--particularly in terms of what we "see" God as capable or doing or not doing within time's realm--as if God would bow to this separate force known as Father Time. But to God time is simply a tool for the here and now and whatever purposes in the past and future He may or may not merge together in His mysterious infinite unity. And what He reveals in Scripture by way of His Spirit may be somewhat of a mystery to us--our views of it as revealed by and through Him are quite limited in comparison to His vistas--and often even that is of divine purpose and wisdom. My Father used to say to me with regard to the Psalm "The word is a lamp unto my feet, a light unto my path," that God doesn't shine our entire path in detail as we progress through it. He gives us only enough to require more faith to take the next step." It's all about the process. And even Paul saw this lamp-by-our-feet, step-by-step process, and indeed he saw more than most Christians. Nevertheless, God's only "limitation" to time is only in terms of what He has allowed for His eternal purposes. But His infinite mind is beyond the limits of time. However, with us, many of the points of confusion are merely manifestations of our own human frustration at not being able to see clearly, completely and all at once so many of His great mysteries. Did not Paul by the Holy Spirit write in I Corinthians 13:12, "But now we see through a glass darkly, but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known"? And then Paul concluded chapter 13 of I Cor. with this in verse 13: "And now abides faith, hope and charity (Here the purposeful derivation is certainly agape love as has been through out the entire chapter.), these three, but the greatest of these is charity." (That is, Love--agape love--God's faultless, pure, holy, faithful, gracious, merciful love.) What of this discussion survives or even matters apart from this essential truth regarding agape love? I respectfully ask many here to study in prayer on the doctrine of the resurrection related through I Corinthians 15: 1-58 and also I Thes 3: 13 and 4: 14-19. Truly the doctrine of the resurrection and the doctrine of the Resurrection (15: 35-58 of I Cor.) are vital to the historical preaching of the gospel (vss 1:19) and are vital to the prophetic preaching of the gospel (vss 20-28). The Grace, Truth and Love of The Savior, The Word, give peace, joy and clarity of mind, emotion and spirit to all here. Sincerely, jl


Date:
05 Jun 2003
Time:
08:27:21

Comments

Very interesting... I never knew I bore the label "Dispensationalist." Fellow Christians, thank God it does not matter what we believe about Revelation, so long as we have accepted Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. Our salvation, journey into eternal glory, and being in the presence of God depend upon his eternal grace and wisdom, not our own interpretations of scripture. We could all be wrong, and still be heavenbound. Halleluia! Let us love one another, so that all may know we are His. Joe


Date:
05 Jun 2003
Time:
20:18:03

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Date:
05 Jul 2003
Time:
06:58:00

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First of all, I don't even know what a Prederist is really. I don't know why I even watch J.V.I. I guess I just like yelling at the T.V. I actually heard him say once that Jews don't have to accept Jesus as Lord to get to Heaven, because they have some "special" way in! I asked him on his "Question of the week" if I wasc still "saved" even if I did not believe in the Raprture, and if it WAS true, what choice would I have anyway? No answer,as yet...I think his name translated from the German says it all; Jack-From-The-Devil


Date:
11 Jul 2003
Time:
19:24:23

Comments

right on.. God Bless


Date:
16 Jul 2003
Time:
10:15:46

Comments

I watched your show on Monday July 14, 2003, and I was very upset with what you said about 8-Mile and Eminem. How could you say something like that. It pissed me off. I strongly dissaprove of EVERYTHING you said about him and his movie. Its a movie if you dont like it dont listen to his music or watch the movie. Keep your comments like that to yourself. I didnt mind you before but I strongly dislike you for what you said. If your hard up for topics, talk about how much of an ass you are.


Date:
25 Jul 2003
Time:
21:15:46

Comments

The popular movement in our modern time is to push these differences of oppoin to the side but isn't there a huge danger in that type of reasoning? What about about Christ's prediction of his own death and ressurection should we question that too? Of course not, so why is it difficult for people to in his


Date:
25 Jul 2003
Time:
21:34:14

Comments

The popular movement in our modern time is to push these differences of opinion to the side but isn't there great danger in that type of reasoning? What about Christ’s prediction of his own death and resurrection should we question that too? Of course not, so why is it difficult for others to believe in Jesus'other contemporary prophecies? The futurist have done more than open the doors for liberals they have given them the keys as well. I believe Christ's credibility is too important to be pushed to the side. Charles M. Varner


Date:
04 Aug 2003
Time:
17:02:09

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Greetings in Jesus name , we must remember that scripture must interpret scripture. We must not neglect the histories. In Matt.24, Jesus was speaking to his generation not ours. The year 70.AD. has a great significance.Christ came down in judgement. The kingdom was taken from the Jews and given to the Gentiles. We stand on the finished works of calvary.Jesus completed his work of salvation. To refer Matt. 24 to our times, means that Jesus has not completed his workof salvation. Philip - South Africa


Date:
14 Aug 2003
Time:
22:43:48

Comments

Impe explains how 666 spells out VISA. Okay... how about this, the definition of imp: imp - a small demon that is according to the American Heritage Dictionary, 2000. Ironic?


Date:
14 Aug 2003
Time:
22:55:25

Comments

I like penis


Date:
27 Aug 2003
Time:
12:27:36

Comments

actual preterists are honest enough to admit that Jesus did predict both the destruction of the temple and His second coming. the temple has been destroyed, and His second coming hasn't happened. Ooops. So it doesn't fit into a nice dispensational framework. Gosh - it sounds like JESUS!


Date:
31 Aug 2003
Time:
15:22:30

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do you believe that acts 2:38 is the way of salvation. wendy


Date:
31 Aug 2003
Time:
15:23:05

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Date:
07 Sep 2003
Time:
10:40:57

Comments

Who is the founder of the internet,and why did he use WWW.com? Do you think it will come to the point when everything must be purchased through the Internet? Why does the name christian have the word anichrist in it?


Date:
04 Oct 2003
Time:
21:57:20

Comments

Dr. Van Impe: You sir, must be stopped at all costs. Your heresy has gone on long enough. I ask God that you will either be show your error in eschatology, or your ministry will fail. You should take the opportunities given you to study Preterism, and see if it is true instead of letting your presupposition dismiss it for you. I watch your Premilleniallism ideas on TV all the time, and frankly I find your entire belief system to be nothing short of laughable. Your entire decorum is pathetically superficial. I wish that you would get off of the air, and let the Bereans do the talking, for they study the word of God honestly, and draw conclusions from Scripture, not their own movie-like fantasies. Or perhaps you feel as though you could debate a learned Preterist. This I would love to see. This site contains many names worthy to debate you. Pick one to debate publicly, and finally, or shut your mouth forever on the subject of eschatology, because you are not a good student of the Bible, and have not right to teach other Christians the pack of lies you sell on the air waves daily.


Date:
16 Oct 2003
Time:
10:21:32

Comments

I believe that the prophecy lin revelation has not yet happened and people who belive that it did are gonna be in for a treat.


Date:
16 Oct 2003
Time:
16:34:18

Comments

Hi jack it's funny you know when your looking for god related sites on the net there not there.. I've been watching your show for almost two years now .could you help me I'm looking for some of the 61 or so prophecies jesus fullfilled in the new testement. You see I have a jewish freind that is getting an intrest in what I've been saying. I sure could use some help thanks prfect2@webtv.net


Date:
17 Oct 2003
Time:
13:34:19

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Date: 20 Mar 2002 Time: 16:58:50 Remote User: wrote the following- "John was called to ministry by Jesus of Nazareth during the law a dispensation characterized by works. But we see in Romans 10:4 That JesusChrist is the end of the law indicating the change in dispensation that occured after Jesus death in calvary." I used to be a dispensationalist and my theology professor taught us this same thing. He also told us that under the old covenant people were saved by works, by keeping the law, and under the new covenant people are saved by grace. First of all, the infallible Word of God teaches that the law was never intended and never could and never did save anyone. "God forbid: for if there had been given a law which could have given life, verily RIGHTEOUSNESS SHOULD HAVE BEEN BY THE LAW"- Galatians 3:21. If keeping the could have saved people then there was no need for Jesus to save people. "For what the law could NOT do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin condemned sin in the flesh"- Romans 8:3. The law was not a ministration of life and salvation, it was a ministration of death! "But if the ministration of DEATH, written and engraven in stones,..."- 2 Corinthians 3:7. The function of the law is to reveal sin, "for by the law is the knowledge of sin"- Romans 3:20. "I had NOT known sin but BY THE LAW: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet"- Romans 7:7. "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also th law: for sin is the transgression of the law"- 1 John 3:4. People in the old testament are saved by Christ just as the people of the new testament are saved by Christ. "Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; and were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; and did all eat the same spiritual meat; and did all drink the SAME spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock WAS CHRIST"- 1 Corinthians 10:1-4. Secondly, the old covenant had nothing to do with salvation, read Exodus. The covenant was that the children of Israel would remain in the promised land of Canaan and be God's people as long as they kept His law. This was a shadow of the heavenly Canaan. We will go to the heavenly Canaan because Christ safisfied the law. About the new covenant, it astounds me how many christians don't even know what it is, especially dispensationalists. That professor told me the old covenant was the law and the new covenant is grace, and the two are like oil and water, complete opposites. What a load of crap! It is found in Jeremiah 31 and repeated in Hebrews 8 & 10, and it says no such thing as this professor was claiming. It says that God will put His laws in our minds and write them in our hearts and remember our sins and iniquities no more! That is an action of grace, yes, but it is not the opposite of the old covenant, it is an improvement of the old covenant. Thirdly, Romans 10:4 is being misused. Christ did not the end the law. Do a greek word study on the word "end" in that verse. Actually, you don't even need to do that, just cross reference in english. You will see that "end" in archaic english is synonymous with "goal", or "objective". For example, 1 Peter 1:9- "Receiving the END of your faith, even the salvation of your souls". Has your faith ended since you have salvation? Hebrews 13:7- "Remember them which have rule over you, who have spoken unto you the of God: whose faith follow, considering the END of their conversation". Does the author mean consider only the last part of their conversation, or consider the objective of their conversation? The list goes on and on. Christ is the objective of the law. Christ did end the condemnation of the law, but not the existence of it. He put it in our minds and wrote it on our hearts. Finally, the change in "dispensation" did occur after Jesus' death at Calvary, but not immediately after. It happend nearly 40 years after. The old covenant did not immediately vanish with the confirming of the new covenant. The author of Hebrews writes "that which is old decayeth and waxeth old is READY to vanish away", verse 8:13. He did not write "it has vanished away", but that it "is READY to vanish away". The spreading of the gospel was the transitional period of the two covenants. The change was not immediate. The old covenant did not and could not vanish away until the old temple also vanished away. For the transition to be made full Christ had to minister his own blood in the Most Holy Place in the Temple of Heaven itself. Yet Hebrews 9:8 tells us "that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as THE FIRST WAS YET STANDING:". Christ could not enter Heaven's Most Holy while earth's Most Holy was still standing! The temple had to be destroyed to make way for the one in Heaven, and that didn't happen until A.D. 70!!!! Over and out.


Date:
17 Oct 2003
Time:
13:46:33

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Date: 20 Mar 2002 Time: 16:58:50 Remote User: wrote the following- "John was called to ministry by Jesus of Nazareth during the law a dispensation characterized by works. But we see in Romans 10:4 That JesusChrist is the end of the law indicating the change in dispensation that occured after Jesus death in calvary." I used to be a dispensationalist and my theology professor taught us this same thing. He also told us that under the old covenant people were saved by works, by keeping the law, and under the new covenant people are saved by grace. First of all, the infallible Word of God teaches that the law was never intended and never could and never did save anyone. "God forbid: for if there had been given a law which could have given life, verily RIGHTEOUSNESS SHOULD HAVE BEEN BY THE LAW"- Galatians 3:21. If keeping the could have saved people then there was no need for Jesus to save people. "For what the law could NOT do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin condemned sin in the flesh"- Romans 8:3. The law was not a ministration of life and salvation, it was a ministration of death! "But if the ministration of DEATH, written and engraven in stones,..."- 2 Corinthians 3:7. The function of the law is to reveal sin, "for by the law is the knowledge of sin"- Romans 3:20. "I had NOT known sin but BY THE LAW: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet"- Romans 7:7. "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also th law: for sin is the transgression of the law"- 1 John 3:4. People in the old testament are saved by Christ just as the people of the new testament are saved by Christ. "Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; and were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; and did all eat the same spiritual meat; and did all drink the SAME spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock WAS CHRIST"- 1 Corinthians 10:1-4. Secondly, the old covenant had nothing to do with salvation, read Exodus. The covenant was that the children of Israel would remain in the promised land of Canaan and be God's people as long as they kept His law. This was a shadow of the heavenly Canaan. We will go to the heavenly Canaan because Christ safisfied the law. About the new covenant, it astounds me how many christians don't even know what it is, especially dispensationalists. That professor told me the old covenant was the law and the new covenant is grace, and the two are like oil and water, complete opposites. What a load of crap! It is found in Jeremiah 31 and repeated in Hebrews 8 & 10, and it says no such thing as this professor was claiming. It says that God will put His laws in our minds and write them in our hearts and remember our sins and iniquities no more! That is an action of grace, yes, but it is not the opposite of the old covenant, it is an improvement of the old covenant. Thirdly, Romans 10:4 is being misused. Christ did not the end the law. Do a greek word study on the word "end" in that verse. Actually, you don't even need to do that, just cross reference in english. You will see that "end" in archaic english is synonymous with "goal", or "objective". For example, 1 Peter 1:9- "Receiving the END of your faith, even the salvation of your souls". Has your faith ended since you have salvation? Hebrews 13:7- "Remember them which have rule over you, who have spoken unto you the of God: whose faith follow, considering the END of their conversation". Does the author mean consider only the last part of their conversation, or consider the objective of their conversation? The list goes on and on. Christ is the objective of the law. Christ did end the condemnation of the law, but not the existence of it. He put it in our minds and wrote it on our hearts. Finally, the change in "dispensation" did occur after Jesus' death at Calvary, but not immediately after. It happend nearly 40 years after. The old covenant did not immediately vanish with the confirming of the new covenant. The author of Hebrews writes "that which is old decayeth and waxeth old is READY to vanish away", verse 8:13. He did not write "it has vanished away", but that it "is READY to vanish away". The spreading of the gospel was the transitional period of the two covenants. The change was not immediate. The old covenant did not and could not vanish away until the old temple also vanished away. For the transition to be made full Christ had to minister his own blood in the Most Holy Place in the Temple of Heaven itself. Yet Hebrews 9:8 tells us "that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as THE FIRST WAS YET STANDING:". Christ could not enter Heaven's Most Holy while earth's Most Holy was still standing! The temple had to be destroyed to make way for the one in Heaven, and that didn't happen until A.D. 70!!!! Over and out.


Date:
18 Oct 2003
Time:
18:15:00

Comments

north korea will test nuclear device zooloo time


Date:
31 Oct 2003
Time:
06:31:22

Comments

I believe Jack Van Impe


Date:
06 Feb 2004
Time:
00:32:43

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I have decided not to post what I was orinally going to post here, in respect to I Peter 2:17.


Date:
06 Feb 2004
Time:
00:33:39

Comments

I have decided not to post here what I was originally going to post here out of respect for I Peter 2:17.


Date:
12 Feb 2004
Time:
12:58:24

Comments

Jack and Rexella are the perfect examples of Christians who have a pre-concieved belief system in place that pre-determines how they interpret scripture. And regardless of what a particular passage states, thay will twist it to fit their theology. I think that if there's any prophet we can believe with certainty, it's Jesus. Therefore, when he stated with certainty that he would return before some of his contemporaries would taste death, THE HE RETURNED! Now it's our job to study scripture, and sola scriptura, to understand the nature of his return and all of the other related events in prophecy. If we can't take Him at His word on this subject, can we really trust Him on any other crucial matter? Jack and Rexella, don't say you believe Jesus is trustworthy if you can't have faith that He did what He said he would do, when He said He would do it!


Date:
29 Feb 2004
Time:
02:01:32

Comments

I agree with Jack Van Impe. As there would be some historical record of 1/3 of the earth being burned, 1/3 of humanity being destroyed by fire, smoke and brimstone, every living creature in the sea dieing, the battle of Armageddon, and the greatest earthquake in history, accompanied by chucks of ice 120 pounds in weight falling to the ground. I pretty sure that everyone on this plant who lived through this would have made some sort of documentation on these horific events. If you do believe that "it's all History" I do remember Luke 24:45 JESUS APPEARS TO THE DISCIPLES "Then he opened their minds so they could understand the scriptures." So without the guidance of the Holy spirt the Bible will just be words without meaning. You may read but you will not understand. The only other comment I have is in regards to 1Peter 2:17. "Show proper respect to everyone: Love the brotherhood of believers, fear God, honor the king." We are told to do this For God's sake not for our own or for the easily bruised feelings of others. This was meant for the Christian at the time when the Roman Empire was putting them to death. By giving respect to others they themselves could gain respect from the Government. This is still applicable today. By giving respect you are more able to spread the Good News of the Gospel to those that may not have listened if you had first scoffed thier beliefs. If you agree or disagree with what I have said doesnt matter, what bothers me most about quite a few of these messages is you judge with Anger. Praying for others to Change, and those who think that the above prayer was wrong. WHy not instead pray For God to open the hearts of ALL who claim to believe to the truth of his word and also include yourselves. This would be a logical approch and one that would be pure of anger and hate. Angry prayers don't reach the ears of God. You can NOT pray with Hate in your heart. I pray for the Angry that their blinders will be taken off so that they can see clearly. I pray that Love and respect will become common place between denominations and we will spread the word of God. I pray for change in myaelf that I might not hold anything against anyone for their beliefs. Amen


Date:
10 Apr 2004
Time:
11:24:31

Comments

Please, in the name of Jesus, stop the madness here. So many have written ugly things about Jack Van Impe. Would Jesus appreciate that? Let's pray, unite, and be more like Jesus, our Lord. Let's not fight, guys. JESUS IS RISEN!!!! Happy Easter


Date:
04 May 2004
Time:
19:34:38

Comments

this is a long shot- my father was the pastor of the first baptist church in bay city, michigna back in the 1950s. i believe that you came through there in that time period and you had an accordian that you paid my brother a dime to carry for you. you had dinner at our house on center avenue. was this real?


Date:
30 Jun 2004
Time:
10:55:02

Comments

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Date:
22 Aug 2004
Time:
21:42:33

Comments

After reading all these responses, I'm stunned to see how nasty the "Christians" are to one another. I've enjoyed Dr. Van Impe's show for quite a few years (not including the cornball jokes), and have gotten a lot out of it. Rexella has a nice singing voice too. How many of you brilliant "Bible scholors" out there have taken the Holy Scriptures so seriously as to memorize them to the extent as has Dr. Van Impe? Go home and do it.


Date:
06 Sep 2004
Time:
03:42:31

Comments

Praise the LORD....Jesus is coming, be ready for the rapture,dont be living in sin... don't be like the foolish virgins or those who think the Lord is delayed HIS coming, He is giving us time to win the lost to Jesus. then the Rapture will happen and God will pour out tribulation on the whole earth. then Jesus will return to the earth to set up HIS kingdom!! Praise God- this is our Blessed Hope Steve


Date:
21 Sep 2004
Time:
09:14:22

Comments

Jack and Rexella,I think you're pretty far out. You have to have half a brain to understand preterism.


Date:
10 Oct 2004
Time:
15:40:35

Comments

For God so loved the world,he gave his only begotten son for whosoever believes in hi will not perish but have everlasting life. *John 3:16* All people need to hear this verse -Katie Allen 11 years old


Date:
22 Oct 2004
Time:
21:30:39

Comments

They do ask some valid questions.


Date:
23 Oct 2004
Time:
07:35:19

Comments

I think it's funny that you can all claim He's wrong in a hateful way, yet scold him for doing the same. "The wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God" Me thinks you protest too much!


Date:
01 Nov 2004
Time:
15:24:22

Comments

SPENT 30 YEARS BELIEVING THE DISPENSATIONAL NONSENSE.....WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF BEING A PRACTISING JEHOVAH'S WITNESS OR MORMON! PRETERISM UNLOCKS THE DOOR TO A PROPER HERMENEUTIC OF SCRIPTURE !


Date:
19 Nov 2004
Time:
08:09:25

Comments

I believe that the Lord Jesus spoke of many things that were to happen in the end times that absolutely did not happen in the first century. The lion and the lamb certainly aren't yet laying down together... Good Job Jack!


Date:
17 Dec 2004
Time:
20:58:32

Comments

I must beleive that the events in Revalation are yet to happen as you mention above. At the same time I hear the comments from Hank Hannagraf that are so articulate, well researched and with academic excellence, what is a common man like me to make of this? I do not possess the necessary study skills to even come close to this level of aquiring knowledge. Thanks for your help.


Date:
26 Jan 2005
Time:
17:05:18

Comments

Van Impe thinks that the Chosen People/Jews/Israel are exempt from the 10 Commandments. The genocide against the Palestinian people in God's name is an affront to all that is holy. Van Impe fails to see the Gospel example of "...the blind leading the blind.." With these atrocities Israel can never be that "Light among all Nations."


Date: 16 May 2005
Time: 11:22:25

Comments:

Those (guy on Septeber 20, 2001) who mock God's people (Jack Van Impe) will be one laughed at by God. The future events are "future events." God bless Van Impe for exposing the wrong philosophy of the preterists.


Date: 27 Jul 2005
Time: 14:48:58

Comments0:

I think the preterist view fits more than any other view. Many of the well known prophecy teachers Jack Van Impe, Tim Lahaye, Hal Lindsey, to name a few, have made many false predictions about the "end times". In my opinion, anyone who make a false prediction (prophecy) is a false prophet. Jesus himself warned us to be aware of false prophets who would come in His name. I don't mean to be judgemental of these men, but I'm the kind of person who calls them like I see them. These men have made predictions saying "the holy spirit showed me these things." To make such a statement and then be wrong is making God out to look like a liar to those people who are making a decision as to whether or not to follow God. In my opinion the greatest cause of atheism in the world is Christians.


Date: 31 Jul 2005
Time: 11:49:38

Comments0:

preterism is false because all the saved would be in heaven with god and sin would be no more.That has not happened yet.


Date: 11 Oct 2005
Time: 20:21:24

Comments:

I agree with Impe, because even I have been persecuted harshly, even told that i was of satan because i opposed the preterist theory. I call it a bunch of bologny too! I study and read the scriptures, and found that I yearn to know more about God and His word. I am deeply saddened by the behavior and attitude of our Preterist brethern. I also read and study endtimes scriptures and have come across many interesting things. And I have started my own Yahoo endtimes group.
Andreia Haddad


Date: 17 Nov 2005
Time: 12:26:28

Comments:

To the person who said 'How many of you brilliant "Bible scholors" out there have taken the Holy Scriptures so seriously as to memorize them to the extent as has Dr. Van Impe? Go home and do it.' Can you spell t-e-l-e-p-r-o-m-p-t-e-r, teleprompter? Anyone in television will tell you that you cannot do newsreports or talkshows to a large degree without them. Van imp is only as brilliant as his followers.


Date: 29 Dec 2005
Time: 13:04:33

Comments:

I think van Impe has set up a straw man again. Few preterists believe that EVERY prophecy of the Bible was fulfilled in 70 A.D. Their point is that most of the prophecies were directed at national Israel in regards to the destruction of the Temple and national Israel. The current nation of Israel cannot prove their claim as there is no geneology, which also makes a Levitical Priesthood IMPOSSIBLE (a big point of the Book of Hebrews).

Jack has also mistated the Reformed position of the Church being the Israel of God. It is not "replacement" theology. The true Israel has ALWAYS been the children of Abraham in the faith, not by descent.

Jack van Impe is quite simply a FALSE PROPHET who berates the Reformed brethren while embracing the Romanists. Truly sad.


Date: 19 Dec 2005
Time: 22:25:25

Comments:

I am not very proud of Mr. Van Impe because of his recent (the last 15 years of his ministry) buttering up to the Pope. However, the comments he makes about postmil are correct (except for the poking fun at it). It is better to be a literalist and grammatical realist when dealing with the scriptures. Spiritualizing the scriptures without a sane contextual cross referencing has led to many errors such as the Watchtower,(Russelites) Christadelphians, Assemblies of Yahweh, Mormons.

I have yet to see in historical literature of the 1st Century, or for that matter any century yet, the literal fulfilments of some of those thing Dr. Van Impe mentioned. In that I happen to agree with him.

Another error of postmil is using the "40 years is a generation" statements of past premil authors to prove the premil is wrong. Not all premil believe 40 years is a generation. The scriptures are clearly indicative with abundance of evidence that a generation consists of physical life beginning at conception and ending at death. Joshua’s age at the time of death was 110 years, not including gestation period in the womb. Before the Flood, life span of the patriarchs averaged around 930 years. If the length of David’s generation, Christ’s generation, and those living today is 70-80 years (a 3000 year span), it would be reasonable to conclude that the generation Christ was talking about in the parable of the fig tree will also be 70-80 years in length. *If* the fig tree in this parable (Luke 21:29-33) represents the nation of Israel, as many prophetic premil scholars believe, and the generation that is described has a lifespan of 70 to 80 years, then we see several strong indicators th

Here is a shocking indicator of today's generation as being the last. Type in the words "Peace and Security" or "Peace and Safety" into any search engine and checkout the results. This phrase is THE buzz-word of our politicians and law makers just pre-911 and after.


Date: 28 Dec 2005
Time: 14:06:16

Comments:

Regarding Jack Van Impe's salary, according to Charity Navigator - http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm/bay/search.summary/orgid/3913.htm
His salary is $160,000 even though his ministry grossed almost 11 million. He lives in a modest house. He has been a TV ministry since the 1950s if I am not mistaken.

Regarding his detractors and those bearing false witness -

Mat 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Mat 24:46 Blessed [is] that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
Mat 24:48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
Mat 24:49 And shall begin to smite [his] fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
Mat 24:50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for [him], and in an hour that he is not aware of,
Mat 24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint [him] his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
 


Date: 29 Dec 2005
Time: 16:39:24

Comments:

"Jack won't name any preterists' names because, unlike us, he obeys I Peter 2:17."

I have seen him attack Lorraine Boettner, the late Presbyterian defender of the Faith.

As for his Biblical Knowledge - so what? What does knowing where something is have to do the proper interpretation of it?


Date: 25 Jan 2006
Time: 20:33:47

Comments:

I heard Jack Van Impie make a point about something he believed the Scripture teaches and his authority for backing it up was his boasting that he had memorized the entire New Testament and eight thousand verses in the Old Testament. I wonder if Jack remembers the NT verse that says “Humble yourself under the mighty hand of God that He may exalt you at the proper time”. It appears that Jack exalts himself in his ability to quote Scripture. Remember, the devil himself quoted Scripture.

Onerray Neal
onerray50@yahoo.com


Date: 11 Feb 2006
Time: 15:30:50

Comments:

Dear Jack

I four questions of the Gospels. Did Matthew, Mark, Luke and John write the book with their name in it, or it?
This is my E-mail address leeann1208@yahoo.com

Love always in Yeshua
Joyce


Date: 16 Feb 2006
Time: 21:26:09

Comments:

The fact is jack called upon the name of JESUS and is now saved praise the lord. I once heard a demon speak through my friend when he was high and it said, this earth is gods lil baby crib full of babys people are just like little chickens when they speak I cant understand what they are saying there like tweet tweet .then he pointed to the sky and said remember heaven hell you know remember man.I stopped hanging out with him after that but I pray for him. Also I have seen the son of man seated in the right hand of power in the sky the son in the sky is gods power and the clouds that day were in the shape of a man holding the son I was in awe He was pointing to the earth I was scared and still scared and fear what I saw .I became a christian and I do believe in JESUS.what I saw in the sky you all will see one day It was in the calgary skies of canada


Date: 15 Jun 2006
Time: 02:56:42

Comments:

Jack needs to read the historian Josephus and take
off his literal mindset while reading. But first he needs to look up the meaning of the word SHORTLY in the dictionary or Read Gen 41:32 coz we know that the Famine did take place in the lifetime of Joseph
This word SHORTLY is their real stumbling block coz if SHORTLY means 2000 years then their RAPTURE is at least another 2000 years yet in the future.
RIGHT???


Date: 30 Jun 2006
Time: 03:42:52

Comments:

The tribulation has still to happen !!!!


Date: 04 Jul 2006
Time: 14:16:03

Comments:

the bible is inerrant and fortells the future he who does not believe is afraid of the future and what it holds its easier to just say it wont happen
jack van impie is a brilliant bible scholar and god chose him to warn us about the terrible things comming


Date: 07 Aug 2006
Time: 15:11:15

Comments:

I believe we are close to the end. All signs shows Jesus will be coming .So look up. Rejoice ! From the storms , to the mideast wars , to the acts of people and what they believe. Many do not have time to study the word. They find more easy to listen all the lies and the falst teaching. How can you know the word of GOD if you do not take time to study foryour self. How will you know if you are not being mislead.?? I pray the people wake up before its too late. Jesus said, If you love me you will keep ALL my comandments . What happen to the sabbath? Why do the people keep that comandment away from the church .When did GOD change that comandment to us for Sunday serves .Is Jesus not the Lord of the Sabbath ,is He not coming for the church who keep ALL HIS COMANDMENTS...John 14/15. May GOD, our Lord Jesus blessed All! AMAN. Love Debbie Marazoff.


Date: 10 Aug 2006
Time: 22:46:22

Comments:

Hi Jack and Rexella,
Question: Is it possible that Massimo D'Alema is the antichrist? What do you think? If not, why not. So many things he is doing just now toward Israel's peace makes me ask, is he the man?
Garry Mcinnis
714 N Walnut Street
Cleburne, TX 76033
garryn@charter.net


Date: 11 Aug 2006
Time: 07:14:46

Comments:

The Preterist view makes sense. VanImpe's view makes non-sense. Read Matt. 24 for what it really says. To whom was Jesus speaking. He constantly says 'you,' meaning the disciples. His comments refer to them and their 'time.'


Date: 30 Aug 2006
Time: 15:17:55

Comments:

I think vanimpe is right, I haven't seen these things take place or heard of these things taking place either.


Date: 13 Sep 2006
Time: 11:50:27

Comments:

Tell me...why does it matter? Jesus IS the same yesterday, today and forever...Why is it necessary to pull thorns out of one anothers eyes when we are all walking around with logs in our own, I mean really! Jesus is going to return, even if you don't believe we are in the last days, as we speak,...every day that passes is one day closer to His return. How is your heart? Are you ready for the day when every knee WILL bow and tounge confess that Jesus Christ is LORD? Maybe we would be better off if we stopped stabbing one another spiritually and started witnessing to a very LOST world...ya think


Date: 30 Aug 2006
Time: 14:25:13

Comments:

I truly believe JVI doesn't beleive his own ramblings. Every verse he quotes is taken out of context, and his ridiculous newspaper headlines make me laugh. He is a false prophet, and will one day be silenced by his own deceit.


Date: 30 Aug 2006
Time: 15:17:55

Comments:

I think vanimpe is right, I haven't seen these things take place or heard of these things taking place either.


Date: 13 Sep 2006
Time: 11:50:27

Comments:

Tell me...why does it matter? Jesus IS the same yesterday, today and forever...Why is it necessary to pull thorns out of one anothers eyes when we are all walking around with logs in our own, I mean really! Jesus is going to return, even if you don't believe we are in the last days, as we speak,...every day that passes is one day closer to His return. How is your heart? Are you ready for the day when every knee WILL bow and tounge confess that Jesus Christ is LORD? Maybe we would be better off if we stopped stabbing one another spiritually and started witnessing to a very LOST world...ya think


Date: 08 Oct 2006
Time: 04:12:43

Comments:

I AREE - BALONEY. ANYONE THAT CAN READ AND STUDY THE BIBLE KNOWS BETTER.


Date: 29 Oct 2006
Time: 16:13:21

Comments:

Greetings All,
Let me tell you people that the 7 peals od thunder sealed up in Revelation 10 are Rock and Roll. That will mean that IT will all happen ion the flesh this time too. One of those prophets is already dead in the big apple and Michael of Daniel 12:1 and Rev. better never go there are the Ancient of Days who is a man today to would get a bit upset.
Good Day
chewey57@yahoo.com


Date: 07 Jan 2007
Time: 01:52:47

Comments:

I have a friend that says she is a christian but does not beleive in the rapture or tribulation how can someone be a christian and not beleive in that?


Date: 12 Apr 2007
Time: 13:46:44

Comments:

Hey the Lamb said thesed days would be shortened. John Lennon's death is how they were. Michael of Daniel 12:1 (The child of Rev. 12) is the prince of the covenant in Daniel 11:22 who gets shattered by a Lady who is the Jewelof the kingdom in Dan 11:20. Michael must never go to the big apple.
Stars and hosts were dragged oput of heaven in Daniel 8:9-14 and trampled by this establishment. The 7 peals of thunder kept secret in Rev 10 are Rock and Roll and the mystery of god they sing about is a Brotherhood of Mankind.


Date: 13 May 2007
Time: 17:36:50

Comments:

I belive thats its coming to the end time. Its near very near.


Date: 29 Apr 2007
Time: 20:46:00

Comments:

Dispensationalism is religions form of the "Happy Meal" everything so neatly packaged and looks pleasant to the eyes and has no spiritual nutrients to fortify your very soul/
PS - the Happy Meal will desease you unto death.
Dispensationalism - brings about the curses in Rev 22:?


Date: 13 May 2007
Time: 21:31:36

Comments:

'To be Preterist or not Preterist, that is the question. Alas dear R.C. I once knew thee.' Shakespeare's Hamlet....paraphrased

Well we will all find out some day in that great gettin' up mornin' won't we?

Let's say the Preterists are right. Then what will be my loss in eternity? Well for one I'll have to take my lumps for being a dumb literalist and not smart enough to get the gnostic spiritual interpretation of the prophetic passages. That would mean I will have less reward (all other things being equal) than the Preterists who were committed to their view.

But let's say the Premills are right. Then what will be the loss for the Preterists? Well we won't know for certain but if I were the good Lord and were assigning positions of authority in the Millennium, would I give a high position to a believer who did not even believe there would be a millennium? I doubt it.


Date: 04 Aug 2007
Time: 11:45:04

Comments:

God bless you Jack!!! Way to go brother - love your accurate interpretation of the scriptures that crush the false teaching of preterism. Says a lot about Dr. Van Impe's authority on the subject as he is the only one here who actually used "Bible scripture" to prove his case.
 


Date: 26 May 2007
Time: 11:19:46

Comments:


In responce to Bob J. Roussee, but not in support of Jack; the word anti-christ is a metaphoric symbol, used to describe the behavior of the person(s), who resist the teaching and Commandments of Yehoshua Messiach (known to Gentiles as Jesus Christ!
I am not writing to insult you, but you should have known this; and if you claim to be a true follower of Yehoshua, you must not be unrealistic in your rebutals for the sake of arguement. the anti-christ is meantioned by Yehoshua in Matt:24; but the Pharisees and scribes and the Priest were also anti-christ; which is why they did what they did unto Messiach. So, in Rev:12:3-17 13:1-18; lends support, and give a scriptural pictorial ideal of the anti-christ himself; which is spoken about in Matt:24:15-24; shows Yehoshua's pictorial of the anti-christ. If you play word games with Jack, you do not prove him wrong, you encourage him because he knows your not presenting a proper rebutal to what he teaches.
Where you spoke about the Great Tribulation, in comparison to Noah and his families rescue; the numbers of people today are greater than then, and without knowing the number of people who will be saved, you've made an invalid arguement; and you are calling Yehoshua a liar; where He spoke in Matt:24;15-24; I hope that this will help you, and hope that you will not make war, but seek to enlighten, because, our goal is not to fight mankind who have a different point ov view; but. it's to enlighten them if we can, and obtaining a real victory in the name of Adoni Yehoshua!

In the Spirit oc true christian love, I write;
Billy R. Colbert
A Crusader For Christ!


Date: 30 May 2007
Time: 20:25:37

Comments:

I've been listening to the praeterist view,It makes alot of sence to me.I also read the book :Last Days Madness.I recomend it.I am a christian,however I dont understand why people especially chritian leaders would want hold on to certain teachings that are really not biblical,and why they are not even willing to listen to with an open mind to other view points that differ from their own.If we are seeking the truth we should not fear.I feal that I am of Christ first and foremost and of the truth,and I am not very concerned about denominational labels.If I feal that I have been wrong on any biblical view,I have no problem accepting it.We ought to be not only able but also willing to accept truth no matter where it comes from,after all the truth is the truth.


Date: 10 Aug 2007
Time: 17:35:52

Comments:

I said once before that as much as preterists do HEAR the Word of God, the entire preterist belief system is a work of idiocy. Only someone who is WILLFULLY ignorant of the facts could possibly believe that ALL of prophecy has already been fulfilled.

With all the evil that currently tries to pass for a "world", they honestly believe that Satan has already been bound, when it is clear to everyone else that the Spirit of Satan is self-evident in the workings not just of so many ordinary people, but also in our so-called "world leaders", who are in fact committed Luciferians.


Date: 12 Aug 2007
Time: 20:47:09

Comments:

Praise God that so many believers are coming back to the original teachings of the Bible. There will always be a hold out number who retain the teachings of the moneymongers instead of allowing God's Holy Spirit do the teaching this end times madness is fertile ground for the little season of Satan.
www.endtimesmadness.com
A. R. Morton


Date: 03 Oct 2007
Time: 12:26:41

Comments:

The first time i saw rexella on tv, i know right away that she had cosmetic surgery, my question is...will God be glorified if someone like rexella who is a pastor's wife...go for a plastic surgery just to look younger and beautiful? no offence to her but she doenst look so real. u cant see a little wrinkle on her face.


Date: 21 Oct 2007
Time: 12:38:15

Comments:

I love your comentary about of Davince code. because Jack and Rexella Van Impe have to defend to JESUS CHRIST of Dan Braun and another antichirst. I know on the Jack`s tear. and Israel`s God give you a very big blessing.please you need to talk a lot of about of it. And i have a one question. why Hitler hated to Israel?I Forgot write my name and my contry on my comentary of bad antichrist: Hector Henry Lopez Romo of Bogotà Colombia and if you like to write me do it please hhenrylr93@hotmail.com send me one of your books as a gift from you to a televison viewer of colombia. my adress is cll 50a sur nº 80h 24 of Bogotà. thak you for your atention...
 


Date: 26 Dec 2007
Time: 09:36:46

Comments:

You need to read all the Bible and fit it all together ,no just the verses you want.Besides a lot of the NT was written after 70AD, like the book of REV.which say's Things which you have seen things which are and things which will take place after this. Please explain the time line.
 


Date: 29 Jun 2009
Time: 14:48:03

Your Comments:

I have this confusion on Mathew 24:31. When the word elect is used are they referring to Israel or to Christians. Many endtime preachers like Joel Rosenberg,John Hagee,Hal Lindsey.Jack Van Impe say the elect is Israel in this verse where they are gathered together,and that is the count down to when the lord comes back. When I Look In strongs lexicon it says in word 1588 that the elect are chosen ones by God. Then it says Christians. I need some help here. It sure is more exciting if it is Israel, then that means they are the time clock to when the lord comes back.It says that generation will not pass. Even though there is a disagreement on what a generation is. We would still know that somebody a live when Israel became a nation in 1948 would be alive during Christ's return. That would be cool. Other wise it is disappointing for me. I need some help here!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Date: 22 Aug 2009
Time: 23:51:42

Your Comments:

First off I'll point out that MOST preterists do not believe that every prophecy of the Bible has already come to pass; in fact, the main ones (Sproul, Demar, Gentry) simply believe that most of Matthew 24 was completed with the destruction of Jerusalem - that "this generation" meant the generation that Jesus was then addressing, not a generation 2000 or more years in the future.

It should be pointed out that, irrespective of ones agreement or disagreement with preterists, the aforementioned are amongst some of the most careful bible expositors around. You won't see them predicting the End of the Age in 1976, 1981, 1988, or any of the other various times that van Impe and his fellow Dispensationalists have predicted.

Now, I am certainly not trashing Dispensationalists. John MacArthur, the late Jim Boice, and the late Adrian Rodgers are/were very careful expositors. But like Mark Driscoll and Dan Kimball in the Emerging Church movement, the orthodox Dispensationalists seem to be the minority.
 


Date: 01 Sep 2009
Time: 15:38:01

Your Comments:

Mathew 24:31 refers to the people who Jesus is speaking right in front of him. Why would he refer to 2000+ years in the future and ignore the plain meaning of their normal question? In Hebrew culture (old testament) 'coming in the clouds' as Daniel say it means a spiritual coming. He is NOT talking about coming in person in this scripture (thats in other verses).

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Date: 13 Sep 2009
Time: 19:41:52

Your Comments:

Van Impe's ability to quote chapter and verse from memory may impress, but he represents pop-theology at its worst.

Let us answer a fool according to his folly: If Van Impe insists on mocking instead of providing answers for serious symbolic interpretations of obviously symbolic passages then we might justifiably ask him ---

When overcoming saints are turned into pillars will they be made of wood or masonry? Rev 3:12) Does Impe think it might be boring and difficult to stand there holding up the roof of the temple for all eternity? In what particular city and in which particular building is the door where Jesus is knocking so that we can go let Him in? (Rev 3:20) Will Impe's antichrist employ a private tailor to make shirts for his seven-headed body or will he order Walmart to produce them? Will he wear hats to hide his seven horns, and special shoes to hide his bear paw feet, or will he just let it all hang out? When the 2nd and 3rd angels cause every living thing in the world's oceans to die and turn all of world's fresh water sources into literal blood, how will anyone manage to stay alive for the remaining years of tribulation? (Rev 16:3,4) Will all the islands of the world sprout legs and to where will they flee? (Rev 16:20) Does the great harlot of Rev 17:1 possess special characteristics of boyancy or does she employ a floating chair to sit on many waters? In which particular motel will the kings of the earth make whoopie with the great harlot? (Rev 17:2) Finally, and in a slightly different vein, what part of "things which must SOON take place" (Rev 1:1), "for the time is NEAR" (Rev 1:3), "even those who pierced Him" (Rev 1:7), "the hour of testing that is ABOUT to come" (Rev 3:10), "I stand AT THE DOOR" (Rev 3:20), "a LITTLE WHILE longer" (Rev 6:11), "I am coming QUICKLY" (Rev 22:7), "the time is NEAR" (Rev 22:10, and "I am coming QUICKLY, AMEN" doesn't the learned Mr. Van Impe understand???

 


Date: 22 Dec 2009
Time: 18:40:35

Your Comments:

He is the antichrist c how convincing he sounds he is loved and acts like jesus so i bet the rapture will accure about a month after he is seated in the e u in seat number 666 look god gives us signs
 


Date: 25 Jan 2010
Time: 08:45:24

Your Comments:

I am a futurist, a post-tribber. Of course, there are problems with my view, as with any view, but I still want to know where Jesus is. He was to return in a "like manner" as he had gone. SO where is he? And Jack brings up good questions, like, when did 1/3 burn up or die, and all that. The way these questions are answered by preterists is much worse than the way futurists answer the problems facing their view.
 


Date: 26 Sep 2010
Time: 07:01:34

Your Comments:

The distruction of Jerusalem was not just because
of the rejection of Jesus as saviour. This was
a final call for repentance upon a people who's
chickens came home to roost for the Blood of right-
eous Able to the Blood of Zackeris slain between
the altar and temple. This is the second comming
where he comes in the clowds for judgement upon
a land, not the world or earth and upon a chosen
people his own, as judement must begine at the house of God. Robin Elliott



Date: 02 Oct 2012
Time: 10:22:45

Your Comments:

the veil still remains over the eyes of you preterists because you won't confess JESUS as LORD. One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism. capital L in Lord is the Lord. i.e. the Lord thy GOD of the old testament. Also don't you know Isaih 9:6,7.The gov't isn't on his shoulder yet. Also see deut 10:17 and Isaiah 43:11(I am the Lord thy God, beside me there is no Saviour.) The veil hides the truth from you when you don't confess Jesus as Lord. we won't be reading the bible when Jesus returns, we will be surving him because we beleive and are humbled by the event of his coming. We will rule and reign with him 1000 years. Glory be to God !!!. So I ask you where did the 1000 years occur? Be carefull trying to date it. Caught you didn't I. Revelation right? corky
 


 

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