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Matthew 26:64 is NOT a "Preterist Time Indicator" Pointing to AD70 "In short, the usage of "Apo Arti" in Matthew 26:64 [Apo ("from" - Strongs 575) and Arti ("now on" - Strong's 737)] is highly suggestive of the themes that have been previously offered at this blog ; that is, a series of revelatory recognitions of the power and glory of Jesus Christ's dominance by friend and foe alike. Though the typically pret-friendly Weymouth translation would like to make Jesus say "later on, you will see.." this is not really honest. I would rather say that it was simply a mistake, but I find it impossible to believe that neither Richard Francis Weymouth ("If this belief ever obtains general acceptance the earlier date of the Apocalypse will also be regarded as fully established. For it will then be seen that the book describes beforehand events which took place in 70 A.D.") nor Earnest Hampden-Cook (co-editor and author of "The Christ Has Come") were aware of how important (ironically) a futurist spin on this passage is to uphold their Preterist assumptions. However, not only is there no sense of futurity in this very emphatic Greek phrase, but rather we see quite the opposite.


12/31/4:

  • American Prophecy and the Judeo-Christian crusade against evil - "

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: Characters and Events of Roman History: From Caesar to Nero - Guglielmo Ferrero (1906) "In this story St. Paul is exactly the antithesis of Nero. The latter represents the atrocious selfishness of rich, peaceful, highly civilised epochs; the former, the ardent moral idealism which tries to react against the cardinal vices of power and wealth through universal self-sacrifice and asceticism. Neither of these men is to be comprehended without the other, because the moral doctrine of Paul is partly a reaction against, the violent folly for which Nero stood the symbol; but it certainly was not philosophical considerations of this kind that led the Roman authorities to rage against the Christians. The problem, I repeat, is insoluble. However this may be, the Christians were declared responsible for the fire; a great number were taken into custody, sentenced to death, executed in different ways, during the festivals that Nero offered to the people to appease them. Possibly Paul himself was one of the victims of this persecution."     "The armies of Gaul and Spain, for a long time irregularly paid, led by their officers, revolted. This act of energy sufficed. On the 9th of June, 68 A.D., abandoned by all the world, Nero was compelled to commit suicide. So the family of Julius Caesar disappears from history. After so much greatness, genius, and wisdom, the fall may seem petty and almost laughable. It is absurd to lose the Empire for the pleasure of singing in a theatre. And yet, bizarre as the end may seem, it was not the result of the vices, the follies, and the crimes of Nero alone. In his way, Nero himself was, like all members of his family, the victim of the contradictory situation of his times."

12/30/4:

  • Exposed: The Jesus Fakes "The four men indicted were Tel Aviv collector Oded Golan, owner of the James ossuary and the Yoash tablet; Robert Deutsch, an inscriptions expert who teaches at Haifa University; collector Shlomo Cohen; and antiquities dealer Faiz al-Amaleh."

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: Dr. Francis Nigel Lee - The Olivet  Discourse and the Destruction of Jerusalem in prophecy (2000) "The beginning of that "abomination" refers to the desecration of the city by the ensigns of the Romaneagles3089 (or unclean vultures)3090 which surrounded Jerusalem in 66.5 A.D.   So the Dordt Dutch Bible, Matthew  Henry,  Adam  Clarke,  Albert  Barnes,  and  Marcellus  Kik.      The  "desolation"  itself  would  be engineered three and a half years later at the destruction of Jerusalem and its temple in 70 A.D."

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: Dr. Francis Nigel Lee - John's Revelation Revealed (1999) "John does not say or mean (preteristically) that all those things would soon finish coming to pass. Nor does he say or mean (futuristically) that almost none of those things would even start to occur until after an alleged and still-future 'rapture.' He says and means (historicalistically) that first some and then all those things would "shortly" start coming to pass.

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: Dr. Francis Nigel Lee - The Non-Preterist Historicalism of John Calvin and the Calvinistic Standards (1993) "Historicalists would agree with Preterists that there is indeed a very important sense in which Christ did come (invisibly) to Jerusalem, in punitive judgment, during A.D. 70.. He would particularly come and comfort them in the hour of those believers' deaths. Yet if they, the first-century A.D. Congregations, would not repent of their backslidings ¾ that same Jesus would come even to chasten and to correct them. Indeed, He certainly came invisibly yet powerfully ¾ to destroy the wicked Jerusalem in 70 A.D."

  • Wave hit Christians during church service - In Indonesia, where less than 1 percent of the population is Christian, believers "have been very badly affected," said a report from that nation. "At least 150 Christians have died and about 5,000 have been displaced," a contact e-mailed to Barnabas Fund."

  • "Luther noted that Christ warned about false prophets coming from the desert (Matthew 24: 24 – 26) and this certainly included Muhammad."

12/29/4:

  • Henry Hammond: Hammond's Commentary Added to Southwestern's Library - "Hammond was a preterist, one who believes the events of the Apocalypse had already come to pass. During a chapel service in November Driver read from a review written by Charles Spurgeon, who had a mixed assessment of Hammond’s New Testament commentary. “Though Hammond gives a great deal of dry criticism and is Arminian, churchy, and peculiar, we greatly value his addition to our stores of biblical information. Use the sieve and reject the chaff,” Spurgeon wrote."

12/27/4:

  • Press: Tidal Wave Tragedy Teaches Humility - UPI "The Book of Revelation predicts a dramatic earthquake will shake the earth before the Second Coming of Christ. Accordingly, Christian fundamentalist groups have always been prone to see earthquakes as signs of divine judgment or of the imminence of the return of Jesus.

    And even with accounts of the death tolls and devastation still incomplete, it teaches the sobering lesson that the wrath of Nature can dwarf the worst excesses of Man."

  • Pret Website: Beyond the End Times Ministry - Ron McRay "In the past fifteen years, I have reviewed my convictions with the intent of testing them to see if they agree with the Bible, rather than make the Bible fit what my ideas are."

12/26/4:

  • Ralph Woodrow: Matthew 24 - The Great Tribulation: Future or Fulfilled? "The scholarly Christian translator of Josephus’ works mentions this in a footnote: “That these calamities of the Jews, who were our Saviour’s murderers, were to be the greatest that had ever been since the beginning of the world, our Saviour had directly foretold (Mt. 24:21; Mk. 13:19; Lk. 21:23,24) and that they proved to be such accordingly, Josephus is here a most authentic witness.” (Preface, p.429)."

  • Caiaphas' Bones

12/25/4:

  • Symbols of Christmas - "Christmas is a later Christian festival," (Baptist Theologian Timothy) George said. "Early Christians didn't observe Jesus' birth; they were concerned about his death, resurrection and second coming."

  • dEmEnTiA: Enjoy the peace of Christmas - "Seems to me the longer Jesus waits to come back for his second return, the more we experience the Biblical account of "Sodom and Gomarrah." The Rev. Dr. Billy Graham said on one occasion.. I do not believe we will experience this type of peace until Christ's second coming."

12/24/4:

  • Transition Texts: Gary DeMar: Randall Price and the Transition Texts of Matthew 23:38-39 "Toussaint and Price are willing to dismiss repeated references to an impending judgment by straining to find a single passage to bolster their argument that a pre-tribulational rapture, a rebuilt temple, and the reinstitution of Old Covenant Judaism during an earthly millennium remain to be fulfilled. "

  • Levi and Sarah, or the Jewish Lovers (1821) "The last siege and capture of Jerusalem will ever be memorable in the history of mankind. "

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: Josephus by Norman Bentwich (1914) "Josephus hardly merits a place on his own account in a series of Jewish Worthies, since neither as man of action nor as man of letters did he deserve particularly well of his nation."

12/23/4:

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: Douay-Rheims Version of the Holy Bible (1586) William Allen, Richard Bristow, Thomas Worthington "Zacharias Chapter 11 - The destruction of Jerusalem and the temple. God's dealings with the Jews, and their reprobation. 11:1. Open thy gates, O Libanus, and let fire devour thy cedars.   O Libanus. . .So Jerusalem, and more particularly the temple, is called by the prophets, from its height, and from its being built of the cedars of Libanus.--Ibid. Thy cedars. . .Thy princes and chief men."  "A fountain shall come forth of the house of the Lord, etc. . .Viz., the fountain of grace in the church militant, and of glory in the church triumphant: which shall water the torrent or valley of thorns, that is, the souls that before, like barren ground brought forth nothing but thorns; or that were afflicted with the thorns of crosses and tribulations."

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: The Ballad of the White Horse (1911) - G.K. Chesterton "For the White Horse knew England When there was none to know; He saw the first oar break or bend, He saw heaven fall and the world end, O God, how long ago.

For the end of the world was long ago,
And all we dwell to-day
As children of some second birth,
Like a strange people left on earth
After a judgment day.

For the end of the world was long ago,
When the ends of the world waxed free,
When Rome was sunk in a waste of slaves,
And the sun drowned in the sea.

When Caesar's sun fell out of the sky
And whoso hearkened right
Could only hear the plunging
Of the nations in the night.

When the ends of the earth came marching in
To torch and cresset gleam.
And the roads of the world that lead to Rome
Were filled with faces that moved like foam,
Like faces in a dream.

  • Transition Texts: Added J. Randall Price "In fact joined immediately to Jesus' own pronouncement of the Temple's desolation (Matt. 21:38) is His promise (in the word "until") of Israel (and the Temple's) restoration (Matt. 23:39)." (An Overview of the Future Temples)

  • Yochanan Ben Zakkai Sets up Yavneh - "When he reached the Romans, he said: "Peace to you, O King. Peace to you, O King." He [Vespasian] said: "Your life is forfeit on two counts, one because I am not a king and you call me king, and again, if I am a king, why did you not come to me before now?" He replied: "As for your saying that you are not a king, in truth you are a king, since if you were not a king Jerusalem would not be delivered into your hand, as it is written, ‘And Lebanon shall fall by a mighty one ‘[Isaiah 10:34]. "Mighty one" is applied only to a king, as it is written, And their mighty one shall be of themselves... [Jeremiah 30:21] and Lebanon refers to the Sanctuary, as it says, This goodly mountain and Lebanon [Deuteronomy 3:25]."

12/22/4:

  • - The Birth of JesusIs it just a coincidence that when the one true High Priest comes into the world, that for the first and only time, a temporary High Priest is appointed to perform the important duties for the Day of Atonement? Not if you believe, as I do, that the exact date for Jesus' birthday is the Day of Atonement or September 11, 5 BCE. "

  • Venerable Bede: Added Anglo-Saxon Chronicles (the "Saxon Chronicle" contains the original and authentic testimony of contemporary writers to the most important transactions of our forefathers, both by sea and land, from their first arrival in this country to the year 1154) "We come now to a more cheering prospect; and behold a steady light reflected on the "Saxon Chronicle" by the "Ecclesiastical History" of Bede; a writer who, without the intervention of any legendary tale, truly deserves the title of Venerable" - "A.D. 71. This year Titus, son of Vespasian, slew in Jerusalem eleven hundred thousand Jews."

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: Josephus: The Antiquities of the Jews

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: Ancient Man: The Beginning of Civilization by Hendrik Willem Van Loon  "The temple which served no practical purposes (as far as they could see) was neglected until the days of Herod, who was King of the Jews by the Grace of the Roman sword and whose vanity wished to renew the ancient splendor of the bygone ages. In a half-hearted manner the oppressed people set to work to obey the orders of a master who was not of their own choosing. When the last stone had been placed in its proper position another revolution broke out against the merciless Roman tax gatherers. The temple was the first victim of this rioting. The soldiers of the Emperor Titus promptly set fire to this center of the old Jewish faith."

  • When Will Jesus Return? - Joseph Farrah "In 1772, Edward Gibbons published "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire," in which he cites early documents suggesting the Christian disciples of the first century were taught that Jesus would return after 2,000 years. We'll soon find out if they were right."

  • Jesus and the development of afterlife beliefs - "The apocalyptic end of the current world is also what Jesus is referring to in his foretelling of destruction below: And as Jesus was coming out of the Temple, one of his disciples said to him, 'Teacher, see what great stones and what great buildings are here.' And Jesus said to him, 'Do you see these great buildings? Not one stone will be left upon another that will not be destroyed.' (Mark 13:2)" (Muslim WakeUp!)

12/21/4:

  • J. Randall Price : A Brief History of the Jewish Temple  "Although newly restored, it was still subject to the old terms of the covenantal contract, and with the Nation's rejection of Jesus as Messiah the Temple was again doomed to desolation. All of Jesus pronouncements of the Temple's destruction (Matt. 24:2/Mk. 13:2; Lk. 21:6, 20-24) must be viewed in this light, and not as a rejection or replacement of the Temple as a legitimate institution. In fact joined immediately to Jesus' own pronouncement of the Temple's desolation (Matt. 21:38) is His promise (in the word "until") of Israel (and the Temple's) restoration (Matt. 23:39). This and Jesus' positive statements concerning the Temple elsewhere (Matt. 12: 4; 17:24-27; 23:16-21; Jn. 2:16-17) and especially in His Olivet Discourse (Matt. 24:15; Mk. 13:14) hold out the prophetic promise that the history of the Temple would be continued in the future." (An Overview of the Future Temples)

  • J. Randall Price : The Eschatology of the Dead Sea Scrolls  "The history of mankind is traced from the Creation (1QS 4:15-17) and leads up to the eschaton or the "latter generation" or the "end-time," finally culminating in the "Latter Days" (QpHab 4:1-2, 7-8, 10-14; cf. 2:5-7). This culminating period also looks forward in its description of this age ending the era of wickedness as "the decreed epoch of new things" (1QS 4:25; cf. Dan. 9:26-27; 11:35-36; Isa. 10:23; 28:22; 43:19)." 

"The Messiah of the Dead Sea Scrolls is clearly eschatological. His coming is at "the end of days," and is royal (Davidic), priestly (Aaronic), and prophetic (Mosaic) in nature."

"In Dead Sea texts which depict this period of great spiritual declension of Israel, the apostasy is said to be spearheaded by a figure refer to as "Belial" and a "son of Belial." The term appears also in the New Testament at 2 Cor. 6:15. In other texts, this figure is called "son/man of sin" (cf. CD 6:15; 13:14; 1QS 9:16; 10:19). This expression is quite similar to an expression found in the Pauline description of the eschatological desecrator, the Antichrist, in 2 Thess. 2:3b. It is complemented by another term "son of iniquity" in 1QS 3:21, which is comparable to the phrase "the man of lawlessness" paired with "man of sin" in 2 Thess. 2:3. Even the phrase "the mystery of lawlessness," found only at 2 Thess. 2:7, has an almost identical expression at Qumran: "the mystery of iniquity" 

12/20/4:

12/19/4:

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: Philip Schaff - History of the Christian Church (1882)  (Chapter 6: The Great Tribulation - The Roman Conflagration and Neronian Persecution)  "The aforesaid Scribes and Pharisees, therefore, placed James upon the pinnacle of the temple, and cried out to him: "O thou just man, whom we ought all to believe, since the people are led astray after Jesus that was crucified, declare to us what is the door of Jesus that was crucified." And he answered with a loud voice: "Why do ye ask me respecting Jesus the Son of Man? He is now sitting in the heavens, on the right hand of the great Power, and is about to come on the clouds of heaven." And as many were confirmed, and gloried in this testimony of James, and said:, "Hosanna to the Son of David," these same priests and Pharisees said to one another: "We have done badly in affording such testimony to Jesus, but let us go up and cast him down, that they may dread to believe in him." And they cried out: "Ho, ho, the Just himself is deceived." And they fulfilled that which is written in Isaiah, "Let us take away the Just, because he is offensive to us; wherefore they shall eat the fruit of their doings." [Comp. Is. 3:10.]"

  • This Will Take a Miracle - Indianapolis Star - Bill Moyers: "Theology asserts propositions that cannot be proven true; ideologues hold stoutly to a world view despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality. When ideology and theology couple, their offspring are not always bad but they are always blind."     "After the last tree is felled, Christ will come back," James Watt, Ronald Reagan's secretary of the Interior, told Congress in the formative days of the Moral Majority. Millions agree, just as millions agree with the general who went around proclaiming that his God was mightier than the Muslims' God. As this strain of religion vies with the other one for the helm of the state, prophecies of a final battle may prove perfectly down-to-Earth. Happy holidays."

  • Smith Bicentennial Renewing Debate - "To loyal Mormons, Joseph Smith Jr. was an American prophet whose creed is preparing for Christ's Second Coming. To skeptics, he was a reprobate impostor, if a remarkably successful one."

12/17/4:

  • FP: Dan Delegrave: Compilation of 2004 Articles From Fulfillment Ministries

  • Western Wall hill to be removed - "Jerusalem city engineers will take down the hill jutting out from the Western Wall, replacing it with a bridge. Archaeologists expect to find treasures, such as a tall gate from the Second Temple."

  • A Crack in the Theory "in scholarly circles, a storm is brewing, raising questions about the spiritual past of the site and its connection to some of the legends that have risen on its ashes. Did Essenes live at and scribe the Dead Sea Scrolls at Qumran? No, says a soon-to-be-released report."

12/16/4:

  • An Exchange between Old School Baptists on Preterism

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: Lands of the Bible - J.W. McGarvey "The death of Agrippa occurred in the year 44 of our era, just ten years after the death of Jesus, and twenty-six years before the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus; consequently, this enlargement of the city to the greatest dimensions which it ever attained occurred subsequent to the solemn announcement of its doom which had been made by Jesus. Though that doom was to befall it, according to the prediction, before the generation then living should pass away, when ten years had passed the city had started on a new career of growth and apparent prosperity, yet the words of Jesus were not falsified by the result."

  • Press: Why do End-Time Beliefs Endure? - The Economist "Christians have kept faith with the idea that the world is just about to end since the beginnings of their religion. Jesus Himself hinted more than once that His second coming would happen during the lifetime of His followers."

  • Press: In Line for the Rapture - Rick Perlstein, Village Voice "The Apostolic Congress, a Christian Zionist movement, has some attentive ears in the White House. How much influence do they wield on American policy in Israel?" Affiliated with the United Pentecostal Church, the Apostolic Congress is part of an important and disciplined political constituency courted by recent Republican administrations. As a subset of the broader Christian Zionist movement, it has a lengthy history of opposition to any proposal that will not result in what it calls a "one-state solution" in Israel."

  • Jerusalem History: Images of the Temple

  • Catholic Gonzalo Rojas Flores : The Book of Revelation and the First Years of Nero's Reign - "According to ecclesiastical tradition, the Book of Revelation was written by the apostle John, the son of Zebedee, about the year 95, during his exile in Patmos, shortly before writing the fourth gospel in Ephesus. Most scholars support this late dating (last days of Domitian’s reign), but the early dating (between the years 64 and 70) has the support of many important authors1. In this article I will try to demonstrate that (a) the external evidence is not conclusive in favor of a late dating, because there is an important patristic tradition in favor of Nero’s reign; and (b) the internal evidence provides important arguments affirming that the definitive version of Revelation was redacted after Nero’s ascension to power in the year 54 and before the earthquake of Laodicea in the year 60."

12/14/4:

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: The Second Coming of Christ and the Destruction of the World - Benjamin Franklin (1869) "But there is another class of scoffers that this discourse has to do with. They say the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ has long since occurred--that he came the second time at the destruction of Jerusalem; that he there judged the world; separated the righteous from the wicked, and, consequently, argue that the coming of Christ, the judgment, and punishment of the wicked are all long since gone by. This fallacy must now be refuted. It must be shown that the coming of the Lord is yet future." (The Gospel Preacher, Ch. 18)

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: Evidences of Christianity: A Debate - Alexander Campbell and Robert Owen (1829) "beside the predictions uttered by the Savior concerning his own demise, and all the circumstances attendant upon it, he foretold one event of such notoriety and importance as to confirm the faith of one generation and to produce faith in all subsequent generations."

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: Illustrated New Testament - Abbott and Abbott (1878) On Acts 2:19-20 "These, also, are figurative expressions, referring to the portentous events which preceded the destruction of Jerusalem."

  • The Lord's Supper: Its Use and Abuse - W.K. Pendelton (1902) "No one can pretend to deny that Paul teaches the fitness of observing the supper till the time the Lord shall come; but it is by some contended that the coming of the Lord, referred to by him, took place at the destruction of Jerusalem, and that since that time, therefore, Christians are under no obligation to show forth his death farther;--that the observance of the supper should have ceased with the destruction of Jerusalem."

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: Essays on the Work of the Holy Spirit - Alexander Campbell (1824) "we shall proceed to notice a prophecy of great utility, which respected an event about forty years distant. This prediction was designed for public conviction, and was perfectly adapted to this end. It was of that character of events which must necessarily be notorious and eminently conspicuous. Let us attend to it."

  • The Second Coming of Christ a Past Event? - T. Orr, Launceston, Tasmania. (1961) "To the Bible student who is not trammelled by a theory that he must needs uphold at all cost, I commend what I have written as being worthy of careful study, for it accepts the plain statements of the New Testament writers, and requires no evading of the passages in Matt. 10:23, 16:28, and 24:34 which contain a time-limit set by Jesus for His Second Advent."

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: Philip Mauro: Looking for the Savior (1913)

  • Open Source Theology: NT Imminence of Parousia

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12/10/4:

  • Book Store: Continuity of Religion (1670)  By Bishop Jacques Bénigne Bossuet - Chapter 21 Completed "He had foretold the manner in which the ungrateful city would be besieged, and the dreadful circumvallation that was to encompass it.  He had warned the Jews that the time of their calamity was at hand; He had laid open to them the long series of crimes which were to draw such punishments upon them.  In a word, He had traced the whole history of the siege and of the desolation of Jerusalem."

  • Don't Be Left Behind - "As a born again Christian, does the President support efforts to rebuild the temple on the Temple Mount?" Hearing this question, all of a sudden, Scott was in a hurry. He mumbled something like, "I will be glad to take your question, and if there is more, I will get back to you on that," ended the press conference, and left the room.

12/8/4:

  • Bob Dylan's Unshakable Monotheism: Part IV - "Christ will set up his kingdom in Jerusalem for a thousand years, where the lion will lie down with the lamb. Have you heard that before? Have you heard that before? I'm just curious to know, how many believe that? [mixed audience response] Alright. This is called 'Slow Train Coming.' It's been coming for a long time and it's picking up speed."

12/7/4:

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12/5/4:

  • Book Store: Continuity of Religion  (1670)  By Bishop Jacques Bénigne Bossuet "Titus, enlightened enough to know that Judea perished by a manifest effect of the justice of God, knew not the crime which God had willed to punish so terribly.  It was the most heinous of all crimes, a crime then unheard-of, namely, Deicide, which therefore gave occasion to a vengeance such as the world had never seen. But if we only open our eyes and consider the course of things, neither that crime of the Jews nor its punishment can remain hidden from us."

12/4/4:

  • Apologetics.com: Discussion on Preterism - "I believe that Jesus Christ clearly taught that he would return in his second coming (parousia) during the lifetime of his disciples, and that he did in fact do just that. Is anyone interested in having a friendly debate on the timing of the second coming? I hold the position that the second coming was a past event that has already taken place. Again, I stress "friendly debate." No ad hominem attacks (name calling and the such). So calling each other heretic is strictly forbidden. Let's just stick to clear argumentation and exegesis."

12/3/4:

  • Tim LaHaye: LaHaye: "New End Times Thriller Teaches 'Ridiculous' Views" - Tyndale Defends Choice to Publish Hanegraaff's Preterist Series - "The pre-trib author says the new book by Hanegraaff erroneously teaches that all of Revelation's prophecies have come to pass and the rapture has already occurred. "Their idea that the Book of Revelation was written in 64 or 66 A.D. means it's passed -- it was all fulfilled," he notes. "Personally, I think it's an absolutely ridiculous view -- and indefensible."

11/26/4:

  • FP: Walt Hibbard: Jesus' Promise of a First Century 'Parousia' -- Not Clear? (Comment by Reformed scholar) "It is far from ‘clear’ that Jesus promised that His parousia would be in the first century. That is the point of disagreement. If it was clear, then the Christian church would have believed it and so would I.” He goes on to add the following: “Much of what you say here is based on the belief that there can be no doubt on this matter. However, for myself and the historic Christian church these claims are not clear and so your conclusions do not follow.”

11/25/4:

11/24/4:

  • Hank Hanegraaff: Hank Hanegraaff Gave Tim LaHaye the People's Elbow! "This story is too good to pass up. LaHaye, alleged author of the Left Behind Series, and Hank Hanegraaff, the man who refers to himself as the Bible Answer Man and lives in a palace near San Diego where he suffers for Jesus, are having a feud about the End Times. Sort of... What's truly sad about this story is that most Christians won't recognize that Hanegraaff is far closer to orthodoxy here than LaHaye." | New Book Challenges 'Left Behind' | Blog: Irking LaHaye | Audio: Hank Hanegraaff the Preterist? Part 1 | Part Two | Last Disciple on Audio CD | BAM Archives

  • Thomas Ice: The Destructive View of Preterism "What’s happening is that Preterism is challenging futurism. Idealism is not a factor out there and Historicism is not a factor. Preterists are rising up, coming mainly out of the Reconstructionist Movement, to do this. What is their theme verse? Does anybody know? Let’s all say it together, "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things be fulfilled." So, when you talk to a Preterist, get ready to hear the words, "this generation" at least eight dozen times if you have an extended conversation... You might be interested to know that in 1843, when the journal Bibliotheca Sacra was first started, it taught Preterism. You can go back and look at the early articles – Scholars such as Moses Stewart and James Robinson wrote for the journal in those early years. It was not until 1934, when Dallas Seminary took control of Bib Sac, that it became a futurist organ."

  • Oil. Water. Ice. The End. - Interesting collection

11/23/4:

11/22/4:

  • Gary DeMar:  "Shreds of Preterism" Among First-Century Writers "Much of the debate over preterism comes down to when the document was written.  This is especially true for the book of Revelation.  If a document was written prior to the destruction of Jerusalem which occurred in A.D. 70, then any statement about future prophetic events could be a reference to that event."

11/21/4:

11/20/4:

  • Accept Evangelicals as Friends despite their Theology - Cleveland Jewish News "Their theology seems strange and bizarre to Jews. But, "the reality is that this election was won by the galvanization of the evangelicals to vote," said Cook, professor of Judaeo-Christian studies at Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion. "This is not a time to isolate ourselves. That will make us feel there is no hope of getting along with these people."

11/19/4:

  • The Judgment of Jerusalem By William Patton (1877) - NOW COMPLETE! "The singularly exact fulfilIment of the prediction of the Saviour relative to the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple by the Romans, as well as the possession of their land by the Gentiles for eighteen hundred years, are fully chronicled in history. But what has become of the people?"

11/18/4:

  • CARM: "The Last Disciple" By Hank Hanegraaff Discussion - "I feel the need to post a correction of an earlier post on the subject of Hank's eschatological views. I had read where someone said he was a preterist. I responded, basically, that I thought that I had heard him say that he was a PARTIAL preterist (full preterism being unbiblical). I was wrong. On his broadcast (which I listen to every day) today -3, Nov 2004- he said explicitly that he is NOT a partial preterist and that his position will be laid out in his book on the subject which will be released in a few months. In my attempt to defend a man from whom I've learned so much, I misstated his position."

  • Thomas Ice: One Thousand Years, Literal or Figurative? "Hank Hanegraaff of Bible Answer Man fame has recently delved into the field of eschatology (the study of last things) with the release of a novel called The Last Disciple,[1] co-authored with Sigmund Broward. It appears that Hanegraaff has adopted the preterist position in this first novel in a series that sees the book of Revelation as having been fulfilled in the first century. "Hank is a partial preterist who holds to a view on eschatology that is similar to the position held by Gary DeMar," according to DeMar's website"

11/17/4:

11/14/4:

11/13/4:

  • Dialogue with (Anti-Preterist speaker) Scott Hoffstee who claims to be one of the two witnesses of Revelation : "I can understand that Preterism is a joke, but since Scott Hofstee claims to be one of the two witnesses, isn't that even more ignorant?" Scott Hofstee: We are dead against preterism because its a lie"

  • World Journalists Condemn Vanunu Re-Arrest "Vanunu was detained by police who raided the guesthouse at St. George's Cathedral in East Jerusalem. After interrogation, he was taken before magistrates who ordered him confined to house arrest for seven days and banned him from contacting people connected to the investigation against him."

  • The Case of the Disappearing Rabbis "According to the story for which Barbara was the sole witness, the Orthodox Rabbi informed her that he believed in Yeshua, and that there were some 40 additional Rabbis, all supposedly Believers as well, who were congregating together regularly in Jerusalem. In an effort to investigate this phenomenon, I personally asked over two dozen congregational leaders and elders about these so-called secret believers. and only three (3) were able to verify that there MAY be a "secret underground" movement amongst the Haridim, who believe in Yeshua. The majority were skeptical or were just convinced that so such community could exist and be counted amongst the household of faith in any tangible way."

11/12/4:

11/11/4:

  • R.C. Sproul, Jr.: He ain't heavy, he's my brother "The Mormons, for one, baptize in the Trinitarian formula, all while not being Trinitarian. And Rome does the same, all while not being Christian. So, I presume, would Full-Preterists, Campbellites, and assorted other damned institutions." 

11/10/4:

  • BOOK STORE; Outside Study Links - Equip.org - Hank Hanegraaff's Official Website.  Purchase : The Last Disciple - Write a Review!  (Apocalypse Novel Rivaling Left Behind, but from Preteristic perspective) "Tyndale House, the publisher of the Left Behind books, the megaselling Christian series about the end times, now presents a new series with a very different interpretation of biblical prophecy. Christian radio-show host Hanegraaff and bestselling CBA novelist Brouwer take readers back to the time of Nero in the first century. As the Roman Empire ruthlessly persecutes Christians, the novel's warrior-hero, Vitas, tries to defend them. But even Vitas can't prevent the destruction of the Jewish Temple—the historical event that sits at the center of this novel. Hanegraaff and Brouwer posit that the Book of Revelation, in code, predicted Roman persecution and the Temple's fall; subsequent novels in the series presumably will walk readers through the rest of Revelation, tying historical events to biblical prophecy. This is, to be sure, middle-brow genre fiction, and not an especially shining specimen thereof. The prose is plodding, with far too many dramatic sentence fragments and a conventional plot. The dialogue tends toward the unsubtly didactic (" 'Jesus, then, uses this rich symbolism?' Darda nodded.... 'You said John was obviously educated. Can you make any other guesses about him?' 'John verges on genius.' ") Despite the series' many flaws, readers who are hungry for apocalyptic fiction may embrace it, though it remains to be seen whether they'll find a first-century apocalypse as gripping as Left Behind's 21st-century one. "

  • Adam Clarke on Daniel 11:30 & Kittim:

    "Verse 30.  For the ships of Chittim shall come against him.  Chittim is well known to mean the Roman empire.  Antiochus, being now in full march to besiege Alexandria, and within seven miles that city, heard that ships were arrived there from Rome, with legates from the senate.  He went to salute them.  They delivered to him the letters of the senate, in which he was commanded, on pain of the displeasure of the Roman people, to put an end to the war against his nephews.  Antiochus said he would go and consult his friends; on which Popilius, one of the legates, took his staff, and instantly drew a circle round Antiochus on the sand where he stood and, commanded him not to pass that circle till he had given a definitive answer.  Antiochus, intimidated, said, he would do whatever the senate enjoined; and in a few days after began his march, and returned to Syria.  This confirmed by Polybius, Livy, Velleius, Paterculus, Valerius Maximus, and Justin."  (Adam Clarke's Commentary, Dan. 11:30)

11/9/4:

  • FP: Dan Delagrave - The Dead Sea Scrolls and the End "The Scrolls reveal exactly what the New Testament reveals about the imminent "end" - that It was a dominant belief at that time based on the teaching of Jesus and the inspired Apostles. Information was being stored away for future generations because the Jews knew that the end was indeed very near. That end came in 70 A.D."

  • House of God? "As a movement made up of people drawn from a range of denominations, the religious right has co-opted the name of Christianity in the service of an overarching doctrine of power known as dominion theology."

11/8/4:

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: DSS: The Dead Sea Scrolls and Christianity By Robert C. Jones (1999) "Second Temple Judaism can now be seen as a transition period in which the sectarianism and apocalypticism of the period gradually gave away to rabbinic Judaism, on the one hand, and Christianity, on the other. Indeed, it is now clear that the Second Temple period was a kind of sorting process.”

  • Jewish Religious Parties: Essenes "Dupont-Sommer has the correct interpretation of the Kittim being the Romans, Cf. Daniel 11:30 where LXX renders the term correctly, and Vulgate: Romani. One particular detail stands out which can only apply to the Romans and that is they worshipped their military standards. On Hab 1,16 DSH says "Its interpretation is that they offer sacrifices to their standards and their weapons of war are their religion." This points only to the Romans as the Roman worship of the signa, a practice not known among the Greeks."

11/7/4:

  • MP: Ralph Bass: Introduction: Methods of Interpretation: Back to the Future "The Preterists see the message to the seven churches as having contemporary significance to the generation to which it was written. They understand that the prophecies of the book were determined for the near future, and were substantially fulfilled by the fall of Jerusalem in A.D. 70. As one author clarifies, ".the sustained attempt to root the fulfillment of the divine prophecies of Revelation in the first century A.D. constitutes the preterist 's distinctive approach." Preterists contend, therefore, that because of its first century context, most of the prophecies of Revelation have been fulfilled and are now, two thousand years later, in our past. In other words, "Though the prophecies were in the future when John wrote and when his original audience read them, they are now in our past." In this camp you will find Jay E. Adams, R. C. Sproul, Kenneth L. Gentry, Greg L. Bahnsen, Gary DeMar, J. Marcellus Kik,.. David Chilton, David S. Clark, J. Stuart Russell, Phillip S. Desprez, Moses Stuart and Milton Terry."

11/6/4:

11/5/4:

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: DSS: Pesher Habakkuk | DSS Timeline | Dead Sea Scrolls: Reference Materials "It has also been hypothesized that the Qumran scrolls are the secreted library of a community, perhaps Essene, that lived at Qumran, and thus survived the destruction of the settlement in c.A.D. 68. Startling parallels in expression and thought between the Qumran materials and the New Testament have led to speculation as to their influence on early Christianity." (Kittim: "Term appearing in the Dead Sea Scrolls, used of the Romans. The Kittim are referred to as warriors from the west, who capture Jerusalem."

  • Kittim - Symbolic of Rome - 'Kittim' as 'the Romans' may be earliest example of precise preterist interpretation of Jewish Apocalyptics.  This preterist identification dates before Pompey in 63 B.C., as revealed in the DSS "Habakkuk Commentary"

  • BOOK STORE: F.F. BruceNew Testament History (Kittim is Rome) "They believed that the iniquities of the Wicked Priest and his associates would bring the judgement of God upon them.  As time went on, they came to see clearly who would be the instruments of God's judgement.  God was raising up the 'Kittim' for this purpose, and by the 'Kittim', as has been said above, they probably meant the Romans.  It was indeed the Romans who, by their occupation of Judaea in 63 B.C., put an end to Hasmonaean domination; but the Qumran community could see the shape of things to come before that date.  They also saw that the Romans would exceed the terms of their commission and incur the divine judgement themselves because of their impiety and rapacity."

  • Matthew Henry: Habakkuk 1:4-6 It shall be a punishment in which much of the hand of God shall appear; it shall be a work of his own working, so that all who see it shall say, This is the Lord’s doing; and it will be found a fearful thing to fall into his hands; woe to those whom he takes to task! 5. It shall be such a punishment as will typify the destruction to be brought upon the despisers of Christ and his gospel, for to that these words are applied Acts 13:41, Behold, you despisers, and wonder, and perish. The ruin of Jerusalem by the Chaldeans for their idolatry was a figure of their ruin by the Romans for rejecting Christ and his gospel, and it is a very marvellous thing, and almost incredible. Is there not a strange punishment to the workers of iniquity? II. The sentence itself is very dreadful and particular (v. 6): Lo, I raise up the Chaldeans. There were those that raised up a great deal of strife and contention among them, which was their sin; and now God will raise up the Chaldeans against them, who shall strive and contend with them, which shall be their punishment. Note, When God’s professing people quarrel among themselves, snarl at, and devour one another, it is just with God to bring the common enemy upon them, that shall make peace by making a universal devastation. The contending parties in Jerusalem were inveterate one against another, when the Romans came and took away their place and nation."

  • BOOKS: Kittim and Rome Books The Untold Story of Qumran "The new leather fragment now provided a first-century B.C.-A.D. testimony to the accuracy of the text as it has been preserved - Kasidim was clearly in the text used by the copyist.  The next line, however, begins, "Its interpretation concerns the Kittim...." The modern theory had already been propounded by interpretation by the ancient community two thousand years earlier!"

  • Calvinism: Golb: Excavations of Qumran support "Jerusalem Origin" instead of "Essene Origin" Theory - "Ever since the scrolls were first discovered in 1947, the Qumran-Essene theory—or as Golb has called it, “the myth of Qumran”—has taken on a life of its own and is still strongly defended by many. Christian writers have been attracted to the mystique of the Essenes because of the connections they can draw between Essenic anti-materialistic beliefs and the teachings of Christianity, which discourage an interest in worldly wealth. The Essenes also espoused predestination, a belief adopted by Calvinists during the reformation in support of a biblical interpretation that some people are chosen by God for salvation, while others are not. Many Jewish scholars also have supported the Qumran-Essene theory. This, as well as the large bulk of evidence that has accumulated now—which, Golb emphasized, the early researchers could not have foreseen—led him to infer that the scrolls were gathered in caves for safekeeping by the Jews of Jerusalem just prior to the Roman siege of 70 A.D. "

11/4/4:

  • Board: Preterist False Doctrine - "Preterist like mormons bring damnation on them self. Claiming that Jesus has already returned. I don't remember hearing about angels coming from the sky followed by Jesus to destroy the earth & bring christians to the new world. If this had already happened idiots like Torq & Brat Queen would be sitting in the lake of fire as we speak. Is far as I'm concerned when Jesus does come...you will be roomies with the non-believer's in Hell. God Bless the true Christians."

11/3/4:

  • BOOKS: The Temple of Jerusalem: A Revelation "When the Temple was destroyed, they say, the world fell into disorder and nothing has ever gone right since."

  • Dispensationalism: Emasculating the Book of Revelation "In the dispensational interpretation of Revelation the church mysteriously disappears from view in Rev 3:22 (to be replaced by Israel) only to reappear in Rev 19, thus making most of the book irrelevant to the church today. Hence it weakens Revelation by cutting out (emasculating) a whole section which is meant to speak to, and strengthen, the church."

11/2/4:

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: The Judgment of Jerusalem (Chapter Nine) - Patton (1877) "Eusebius also says that Jerusalem "was ploughed-up by the Romans, and that he saw it in ruins." Thus it was that the prediction of Micah, made more than seven hundred years before Christ, found its fulfilment: "Therefore shall Zion for your sake be ploughed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of the forest."   To this fatal end was Jerusalem reduced after a siege of about five months, in the second year of the reign of Vespasian, and thirty-eight years after the crucifixion of our Lord. Such was the end of this city and the Jewish polity. The sceptre had departed,-the daily sacrifices had ceased,-the day of vengeance had come, and in its mighty ruins it stands forth the monumental proof that "heaven and earth shall pass away" before one jot or tittle of all that God hath spoken shall fail."

  • BOOKS: When Shall These Things Be? - A Reformed Response to Hyper-Preterism By Keith Mathison  (Search Inside This Book!) "Traditional Christians "built a creedal fence to lock out heresy, but they didn't realize they built their own prison walls"

  • BOOKS: Nobody Left Behind By David Vaughn Elliott - The Great Tribulation of A.D.70

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11/1/4:

10/31/4:

  • FP: Jim Gunter - "Heaven and Earth Must First Pass Away" - Matthew 5:17,18 "I am fully persuaded by these words of Jesus, that if "heaven and earth" have indeed NOT "passed away," then we today would of necessity still be held sway under the Old Covenant or Law of Moses.  If in fact "heaven and earth" have not "passed away," then it would mean that not ONE "stroke or the smallest letter" found in the Law has passed away!"

  • BOOKS: Paul L. Maier - Josephus: The Essential Works 1988  - Search within this "Full-color edition with updated text, charts and maps" - Textbook Quality for Jewish History as Translated from Josephus' Works

  • Rexella Van Impe: Animals in Heaven

10/28/4:

  • Allen Beechick: Where is the Promise of His Coming?  (An Answer to Preterism) Part One "Some preterists attempt to solve the timeline issue by saying that a heavenly temple was anointed in 70 AD upon the destruction of the earthly temple. In this way, they make the goals and the weeks coterminous. Aside from the fact that they stretch the 70th week (making it last about 40 years) in order to make this happen, how do we know that the heavenly temple was anointed in 70 AD?"

  • Once Upon End Time - "Ever since the dawn of Christianity, groups of believers have searched the scriptures for signs of the End Time and the Second Coming. Today, most of the roughly 50 million right-wing fundamentalist Christians in the United States believe in some form of End-Time theology."

  • Israel votes to abandon Gaza - "After millennia of foreign conquest and forced exile, Tuesday's decision marked the first time the leaders of Israel had voluntarily relinquished control over land explicitly promised them by the Almighty.  The first five books of the Bible outline God's covenant with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, which included control over what is now Israel, the PA-controlled territories, western Jordan, as well as much of Lebanon and Syria. The book of Joshua records the deeding of the Gaza Strip to the Tribe of Judah."

10/26/4:

  • What really happened in 605 B.C.? By John S. Evans, 2004 (Author of The Four Kingdoms of Daniel - A Defense of the "Roman" Sequence with AD70 Fulfillment) "Although liberals insist that Nebuchadnezzar could not have besieged Jerusalem in 605, it is historically documented that he conducted a military campaign in that year that took him far from Babylon and must have brought him into or near Judah."

10/23/4:

  • FP: Kurt M. Simmons - Revelation's Millennia and Greco-Roman Notions of Hades "The millennia of Revelation twenty have no Biblical source in the Old or New Testament.  Far from representing a purported “interim reign” of Christ, they appear to be an appeal to Greco-Roman associations concerning Hades.  The book of Revelation was addressed to Greek speaking residents of Asia minor who would have made an immediate connection between John’s imagery and traditional Greco-Roman belief about the underworld.  The purpose in this was to assist them in interpretation of the imagery and thus gain strength against the coming crisis.  "

  • BOOKS: King Jesus: A Novel - Robert Graves "I, AGABUS the Decapolitan, began this work at Alexandria in the ninth year of the Emperor Domitian and completed it in Rome in the thirteenth year of the same..  Nobody can understand the story of Jesus except in the light of this Jewish obsession of celestial patriarchy.."

  • Ussher's Creation Theory toasted on "Earth's 6,000th Birthday" "At six last night local time at the Geological Society of London, scientists were to raise their glasses to James Ussher, Archbishop of Armagh, who in 1650 used the chronology of the Bible to calculate the precise date and moment of creation"

10/22/4:

  • Bizarro Bush "Get ready for the Rapture, my friends, and make sure you pull that lever and vote Republican – because if you don't, then we'll be spared the fulfillment of all those dire Biblical prophecies, and the Second Coming will be delayed. Yes, the Rapturists are crazed enough to believe that human intervention can have an effect on the timing." | Apocalypse Now - "American evangelicals, according to former Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, “are the Israelis’ best friend in the whole world.”

  • Messing with Texas - "Like many born-again Christians, DeLay believes strongly in the end times. DeLay sees the West Bank as the ancient kingdoms of Samaria and Judea, which must be reunited before the second coming. He openly opposed Bush's "road map to peace" as too soft on the Palestinians."

  • Anti-Christian Hate Crimes in Israel "It has been Jerusalem's dirty little secret for decades: Orthodox yeshiva students and other Jewish residents vandalizing churches and spitting on Christian clergyman as they walk along the narrow, ancient stone streets of the Old City... Besides the Armenian rite, clergy of other Christian churches have been targeted, Shirvanian said. "This is not happening only to Armenian clergy, but also to the Catholics, Syrians, Romanians and Greek Orthodox."...According to Shirvanian, church officials are frequently subjected to spitting, from yeshiva students as well as from ultra-Orthodox women and young children. He said ultra-Orthodox Jews also throw garbage on church doorsteps and break windows at churches and at Christian homes. Daniel Rossing, a former adviser on Christian affairs at Israel's Religious Affairs Ministry, said there has been an increase in the number of such incidents recently, "as part of a general atmosphere of lack of tolerance in the country."

10/20/4:

  • FP: Jim Gunter - "The Last Days" "Beloved is there any wonder why Peter on Pentecost pleaded with them to "Be saved from THIS PERVERSE GENERATION?" (Ax.2:40). Yes, folks, as an inspired apostle, Peter knew what was about to befall THAT GENERATION."

10/17/4:

  • FREE ONLINE BOOKS: The Judgment of Jerusalem (Chapter Eight) - Patton (1877) "Titus now gave orders to his soldiers to make a breach in the foundations of Antonia, except such portions as were needed for the garrison, and to make a ready passage for his army to come up. While these orders were being executed, he learned that on the seventeenth day of the month Panemus the daily sacrifice had failed to be offered to God for want of men to offer it, and that the people were grievously troubled at it. Seizing upon this incident, he determined to make still another effort to end the war."

  • BOOKS: The Four Kingdoms of Daniel - A Defense of the "Roman" Sequence with AD70 Fulfillment