12/31: Walvoord's Post-Trib "Varieties" Plus! - Dave MacPherson 12/31: Walvoord Bio | Fort Worth Star Obit
12/30: Ten Questions to the Zionists - by Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl ZT"L, Dean of Nitra Yeshiva " Jews Not Zionists "There are in fact many Jewish movements, groups and organizations whose ideology regarding Zionism and the so-called "State of Israel" is that of the unadulterated Torah position that any form of Zionism is heresy and that the existence of the so-called "State of Israel" is illegitimate" 12/28: John Noe's Response to Ed Stevens' Expectations Demand a Rapture (Removed from website per request from Noe) - "He correctly recognizes that the “big three events” (return, resurrection, judgment) “occurred in the unseen spiritual realm.” But what he fails to recognize here is that the “catching up” was part of the resurrection. Somewhat alarming is his characterization of figurative-rapturists as utilizing “its bag of apologetic tricks” and his claim that they are “stymied.” Few will agree with this depiction."
12/28: What if the second temple survived AD70 | 'Generations', Tolkein, and Preterism 12/28: Second Temple and Talmudic Era "Force is always, and everywhere, a sign of fear -- that is, a sign of weakness. Behind the vast armies and navies which we call the great powers of the world, there is fear. Fear it is that drives us out to war. Fear is the father of ferocity, and the forger of the sword. From the Creative point of view, which is God's point of view, force is weakness, and only Love is power." G. A. Studdert Kennedy, The Wicket Gate 12/20: The Global Proclamation of the Gospel - Thomas Ice "The preterist arguments for a first-century fulfillment of Matthew 24:14 are much less than compelling. Their insistence that oikoumene in Matthew 24:14 must refer to the ancient Roman Empire has no traction." 12/20: The Gospel Preached to All the World | Part Two | Part Three - Gary DeMar "Few modern commentaries deal with Matthew 24:14 exegetically. It's as if Greek never existed. Fewer still even acknowledge that for centuries the view of nearly every pre-twentith-century commentator applied the events of Matthew 24 to the time leading up to and including the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70. Contrary to how modern commentaries handle Matthew 24:14 and its significance in determining the timing of prophetic events, older commentaries offer detailed discussions of the passage and show how it found proximate fulfillment in the first century prior to Jerusalem's destruction. What follows is merely a sample of how standard older commentaries, many still in print and used widely, interpreted Matthew 24:14." 12/18: Scoffers: Preterists and II Peter 3 - James Lloyd "While the preterists love to quote verses that seem to show the New Testament writers taught that they were in the last days at that time, they almost universally avoid verse 3 of chapter 3 in II Peter. The reason is obvious, for the tense "there shall come" plainly demonstrates that Peter projects this 'scoffing' to occur in the future — at a time he bluntly states will be "the last days." Added to Critical Article Archive 12/18: MF Blume on the Resurrection (From a partial Preterist perspective - which means total Futurist in this case) "Paul is saying more than Jesus is the resurrection. He is saying that the body Jesus was raised with in resurrection is the same kind of body we shall have in our resurrection. To claim our resurrection bodies are "spiritual" in the sense of being unseen and non-physical, more like non-bodies than bodies, is error. However, our resurrection is going to involve bodies that Jesus had when He was resurrected from the grave, not a so-called body he got only after going into the clouds. We shall follow in resurrection by getting a body like Jesus had in resurrection from the grave." 12/18: Resurrection-Related Questions 1. What Body Does Jesus Have Now? 2. Why Was Mary Forbidden But Thomas Allowed to Touch Jesus? 3. Did Jesus Have a Physical AND Spiritual Resurrection? 12/18: Added Prophecy: That I May Know Him to Outside Study Links (Partial Preterist)
12/18: What is the Preterist View? Cephas Ministries Note: "To realize that Preterism is not scriptural is to simply read the Book of Revelation, the last book in the Bible. We can't just leave that whole book out of Scripture as the Preterists would have to do to get around a future Second Coming." 12/17: C.H. Dodd's Paraphrase of Romans 12/17: Bad King Herod "When the Romans crushed the Jewish Revolt and destroyed Jerusalem in A.D. 70, they razed the temple to the ground. While nothing remains of the temple itself, large portions of the enclosure walls still remain." 12/17: Added The Death of Death in the Death of Christ to Dr. John Owen 12/17: Added to Christ Second Coming as a Past Event "Having in remembrance, therefore, this saving commandment and all those things which have come to pass for us: the Cross, the Grave, the Resurrection on the third day, the Ascension into heaven, the Sitting at the right hand, and the second and glorious Coming" (St. Chrysostom, Divine Liturgy) 12/16: Resurrection/Victory Over Death - Another New Archive Now in Progress 12/16:
Theory - Heaven Now - Another New Archive Now in Progress 12/16: Dating the New Testament Documents 12/16: RazorMouth - Gentry, Sproul Jr., Bahnsen, Sandlin 12/16: The Scoffers and the Thief 12/16: Audio Archive: Present Truth Talk Radio 12/16: Audio Archive: America Conference on Zionism 12/16: Audio Archive: Rightly Dividing The Truth 12/16: Zionist Christians attack Anti-Zionist Rabbis (Removed from Server) "Many of his fellow rabbis echoed Weiss by saying that the Zionist influence in the American media and entertainment industry is creating a situation where non-Jews are beginning to resent Jewry and unfortunately are identifying all Jews with Zionist control. How ironic it is that the Zionist state, the entity that was supposed to give Jews a safe haven from anti-Semitism, is now the greatest producer of anti-Semitic resentment in the world,” Weiss said." Monitoring Middle-East Studies on Campus
12/15: St. Chrysostom's Liturgy to Chrysostom "Having in remembrance, therefore, this saving commandment and all those things which have come to pass for us: the Cross, the Grave, the Resurrection on the third day, the Ascension into heaven, the Sitting at the right hand, and the second and glorious Coming ; God of spirits and of all flesh, who hast trampled down death and overthrown the devil, and given life to thy world, do thou, the same Lord, give rest to the souls of thy servants, names, who have fallen asleep, in a place of light, in a place of verdure, in a place of repose, whence all sickness, sorrow and sighing are fled away. " 12/15: Added "The Bible Answer Man" - Part One | Part Two to Gary DeMar 12/15:
Revelations/Epigraphy: Jesus: Written on Stone - Scott Stripling (Another Must Read from American Vision) "The discovery of this seven word Aramaic inscription (without the punctuation marks), firmly dated to the mid-first century A.D., is a watershed moment in the study of the backgrounds of early Christianity. What the Dead Sea Scrolls were to the study of Second Temple Judaism, this inscription is for the study of the primitive Christian church. Hershel Shanks, the editor of Biblical Archaeology Review (BAR) whose bimonthly periodical announced this dramatic story on October 21, 2002, stated that, "The James ossuary (bone box) may be the most important find in the history of New Testament archaeology. Ossuary burial, known as ossilegium, was only practiced in Jerusalem about 89 years (from 20 B.C. to 70 A.D.), less when we consider that it was probably abandoned at the outset of the First Jewish Revolt in 66, rather than at its conclusion in 70." 12/15: Added to Milennial Reign - "..We may conclude, then, that all the promises and predictions in Scripture relative to the future glories of the Jews and of Jerusalem, are to be understood of the Christian church, of which the Jewish church was a figure; and all that is said of feasting, and splendor, and wealth, and worldly greatness and enjoyment, is to be interpreted spiritually of the inward comfort and peace of mind, and "joy of the Holy Ghost", which is promised to sincere Christians in this life, and of the unspeakable happiness prepared for them after death." (Richard Whately, (1787-1863) A View of the Scripture, Revelations Concerning a Future State)
12/14: The Mark of the Beast And Roman Taxation - "Rome was not an anarchy, but a complex system of laws, regulations and obligations. The burdens that fell upon the average laborer in order to support this burgeoning bureaucracy and apathetic welfare state were immense and they depended upon a elaborate system of tax collectors and revenue officers." 12/14: Added How Daniel 9 Anticipates the Destruction of Jerusalem in AD70 to Daniel's Seventy Weeks 12/14: A Student's Research Paper on II Peter 3 12/14: Added Calvinistic Message Board looking for a good time @ Grace-Gospel.com to Grace 12/14: Added E-Sword Download Page to Outside Study Links 12/14: UN Rejects Israeli explanation of British official's death 12/13: The Parousia - Afterword by James Stuart Russell - James Stuart Russell - Dollinger on "The Man of Sin" ; The Babylon of the Apocalypse ; Jerusalem a seven-hilled city ; The Crucial Question ; The True Answer 12/13: John L. Bray - Jesus is Coming Soon 12/13: Another Look at the Resurrection - Preterist Bible Studies "The abolition of death was (past tense) accomplished by Christ as the firstfruits of the resurrection. At the destruction of the Old Covenant, the power of the law was nullified, and so was the sting of death. Those who had already fallen asleep would receive every benefit of the resurrection immediately, while those who were yet alive would nevertheless be changed into a new creation. Not just the owners of a promise, with the Holy Spirit as a pledge, but owners of a new, imperishable body in heaven with the Lord."
12/13: Added Buck's Theological Dictionary to Study Archive 12/13: Added Restoration Ministries Links to Outside Study Links 12/13: Added Restoration Ministries of Grand Junction, CO - Run By Timothy R. King #2 (Fantastic partial Pret site) 12/13:
Dating the New Testament Books - Listed by Scholar 12/12: Added Taking Christ at His Word: Matthew 16:27-28 to Dan Harden
12/12: World Without End - The Australian Christian Reformation
(http://www.freewebs.com/worldwithoutend/) 12/12: Introduction to "The End of All Things" by Seraiah - R.C. Sproul, Jr 12/12: WithChrist.Org on Preterist Eschatology 12/12: Added FAQ about "Consistent Preterism" - Donald James Perry (Redirectionalist) to Critical Articles 12/12:
New Book Challenges Jesus Seminar Findings "E. Earle Ellis, author of "The Making of the New Testament Documents," concludes that the New Testament was composed by four apostolic missions and, for the most part, between AD 50 and 70." 12/12: Hebrew and Aramaic Sources | Hebrew Roots Version | AramaicNT Site List
12/11: "Fire," God's Symbol of Judgment 12/11: Publisher guilty of sabotaging book "Israel's Super Spy"? "The book, supported by FBI documents, and files from intelligence agencies across the globe, details the tycoon's until now unsuspected links to organised crime families in the Balkans - and how Maxwell penetrated America's nuclear arsenal at Los Alamos on behalf of Mossad." Baltimore Sun | Belfast Telegraph | Dec. 5, 1991 - British media magnate Robert Maxwell disappeared while on his yacht off the Canary Islands 12/11: Economist tallies swelling cost of Israel to U.S. "Since 1973, Israel has cost the United States about $1.6 trillion. If divided by today's population, that is more than $5,700 per person." 12/11: Moses Stuart - 1911 Encyclopedia Entry 12/11: Jack & Rexella Van Impe July 17 - Commenting on The 9.5 Theses (RealMedia) | 9.5 Theses "I received a letter from one of the leaders this week, and they had the 9.5 Theses, and it was soooo pathetic. I do not know of one name on the list that is one of the great scholars of the day, but this thing is infiltrating our churches. How could every prophecy, and this is called PRUTERISM (sic), have been fulfilled by 70 AD? And therefore meaning that there is nothing left. Everything happened over 1,930 years ago. I am going to deal with this more next week, so let others know to tune in and I will be devoting most of the program to the subject, so let the people know." 12/11:
History of the War over Dispensationalism - Mal Couch 12/11: American Atheists: Biblical Contradictions "These words were written between 1800 and 1900 years ago and were meant to warn and prepare the first Christians for the immediate end of the world. Some words are those supposedly straight out of the mouth of the "Son of God." The world did not end 1800 or 1900 years ago. All that generation passed away without any of the things foretold coming to pass. The world went on, as usual, indifferent to the spoutings of yet another batch of doomsday prophets with visions of messiahs dancing in their deluded brains. The world, by surviving, makes the above passages contradictions." 12/11: Chronology and Non-Ecclesiastical New Testament - Revelation Date A.D.66 - Frank Daniels 12/11: Across the Sabbath River
12/10: Rubicon 7, the official band of Preterism (know of others? email me.) 12/10: Revelation: Four View Outline and Commentary | Spiritualizing the Bible? | Was Jerusalem Mystery Babylon? - Doug Beaumont 12/10: Sibylline Oracles - Translated by Milton S. Terry 12/10:
Beyond Creation Science - Responses and Reflections - How Preterism refutes the global flood theory 12/10: A Study of Matthew 24 - Wayne Jackson 12/10:
Michael Drosnin interviewed by Rita Cosby - End of the World in 2006 - Windows Media Player 12/10: Presence Ministries International - Another site with Preterist webcast 12/8: D.S. Russell - Author of The Method and Message of Jewish Apocalyptic 12/8: Added D.S. Russell's The Method and Message of Jewish Apocalyptic (Philadelphia: Westminster, 1964) to Bibliography "the apocalyptist, like the prophet, 'foretold' the purpose of God in his exposition of predictive prophecy. But is there here anything to compare with the prophetic 'forth-telling' in which he declares God's message, not for some far-off distant time, but for that very day and hour? At first sight no such comparison is at all obvious; the apocalyptist's utterances are so often couched in terms of the forecasting of the end. Such a judgement, however, is only an illusion brought about by the curious device of pseudonymity which gives the reader the impression of 'prediction proper' rather than of 'history in the guise of prediction'. This device should not blind us to the fact that, from the point of view of the apocalyptic writers and indeed from the point of view of the original readers, the End was not in some far off time but was imminent": The Method and Message of Jewish Apocalyptic, (Philadelphia: Westminster, 1964,, 99." Quote to Imminency 12/8: Apocalyptic: Ancient and Modern - D.S. Russell 12/8: Added Emanuel Swedenborg to Second Coming List of Christ has already occurred (and is still occurring) and that it is a spiritual coming of enlightenment (which Swedenborgians believe has been occurring in the religious and political freedoms since the 18th century). 12/8: Surviving the Apocalypse 12/7: All These Things... - Brian Martin "This is God speaking to Moses at the burning bush. He is going to deliver the Israelites out of Egypt, and bring them into Canaan. More importantly, here we have presented in face value scripture that the Lord came down. It wasn’t physical, although much happened in the physical realm as evidence of His coming down. This is exactly what Preterists believe happened in 70 AD. Christ returned, delivered His saints, and judged His enemies. How can we believe the scriptures when they tell us that the Lord came down in deliverance/judgment in the first generation, and yet not believe them when they tell us that He would do the very same to the last (His) generation – especially when we see virtually identical events taking place?" 12/7: Edersheim On the Olivet Discourse "Between the desolation of the House and their new welcome to Him, would intervene a period of indefinite length, during which they would not see Him again. The disciples could not have overlooked this; and hence neither their question, nor yet the Discourse of our Lord, have been intended to conjoin the two. It is necessary to keep this in view when studying the words of Christ; and any different impression must be due to the exceeding compression in the language of St. Matthew, and to this, that Christ would purposely leave indefinite the interval between 'the desolation of the house' and His own Return." 12/7: Lightfoot's Chorographical Decade "We produce this, for the sake of that story which relates how the Christians fled from the siege and slaughter of Jerusalem to Pella. And why to Pella? Certainly if that be true which obtains among the Jews, that the destruction of Jerusalem was 'in the seventh year,' which was the year of release, when on this side Jordan they neither ploughed nor sowed, but beyond Jordan there was a harvest, and a tithing for the poor, &c.; hence one may fetch a more probable reason of that story than the historians themselves give; namely, that those poor Christians resorted thither for food and sustenance, when husbandry had ceased that year in Judea and Galilee." 12/7: Added Revelation Resources to Revelation: Subject Matter 12/7: Canadians fly to Baghdad as "human shields" - "New anti-war movement growing muscles"
12/6: Israel raids Gaza, kills two more UN workers (and ten Palestinians, by the way) 12/6: PreteristVision Messageboard - New and Improved! 12/2: Walt HibbardLetter to the Editor of New Horizons Magazine "As one reflects on Mr. Jensen’s article, we might well ask if he intended to suggest that the dozens of passages in the Bible on the nearness of the end-time events are really not that important after all? If so, we are dealing with over 100 verses from our Lord and His disciples that obviously do have a bearing on the nearness issue."
11/25: New Jerusalem Ministry Board Upgraded and Updated 11/24: The Olivet Discourse - David Heddle "For now I merely point out that in my opinion the preterist account of the Olivet discourse is very appealing. There is no need for an assumed and unannounced discontinuity between when Jesus is speaking of near-term prophesy to when He speaks of things that will happen in the distant future. There is no basis upon which a critic could claim that Jesus was wrong because he mistakenly thought He would be returning within a generation. And there is no need to infer that the disciples asked a question laden with a false assumption that Jesus did not correct."
11/24: Why there is little preaching on the signs of the times - Dr. R.L. Hymers "So, there is little preaching on the signs of Christ's coming because the preterists have shoved the signs back into the first century, and because many modern dispensationalists have pushed the signs forward, into the Tribulation." 11/24:
The Case for the Imminent Rapture of the Church - Tim LaHaye "In this day of advancing preterism we need to repeatedly mention this aspect of His coming, "in like manner" or physically. One of their weakest points, which are almost too ridiculous to mention, is that Jesus has already come spiritually. He departed physically and you can be sure He will return physically. God's people need to be reassured that when He comes in the air to the earth to set up his kingdom it will be physically." 11/24: Looking for war in Iraq - "Israel has had many nuclear weapons for at least 30 years. It is not a signer of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and does not permit international inspection. Iraq is and does. For a long time Israel refused to even acknowledge it has nuclear weapons, even though one of its specialists, Mordechai Vanunu, wrote a book about them some years ago, was kidnapped by Israeli agents in London and was imprisoned for life. In other words, Israel is the nuclear monopolist in the region" 11/24: SF Media: What is AntiSemitism? - Michael Neumann "Every once in a while, some left-wing Jewish writer will take a deep breath, open up his (or her) great big heart, and tell us that criticism of Israel or Zionism is not antisemitism. Silently they congratulate themselves on their courage. With a little sigh, they suppress any twinge of concern that maybe the goyim--let alone the Arabs--can't be trusted with this dangerous knowledge." 11/24: Theonomy and Theocracy - "Reconstructionism is an authoritarian ideology that threatens the most basic civil liberties of a free and democratic society." 11/24: Other Christian Broadcasts 11/24: Revelation Resources 11/23: BBC: US appeals to Israel over Bethlehem 11/21: Habitats of the New Jerusalem - Gabor Gombor 11/20: Serious Concerns about Full Preterism - Tim Stoudt "Full Preterism, also called Fulfilled Eschatology, is the doctrine that the Lord Jesus Christ has already returned and that all of Biblical prophecy concerning future events has been fulfilled. Although the doctrine seems strange from a conventional viewpoint, it has recently acquired a number of adherents. The author believes that a similar doctrine plagued the early church and that the modern-day movement is a resurfacing of the same ideas. God Himself gave in Scripture severe warnings about the doctrine, to which we today should heed. The attached article is specifically written for the person who is just becoming acquainted with the doctrine and wants to know more about it. It is intended to be a strong warning with sufficient analysis to justify the strength of the warning."
11/19: Could Israel die of thirst?
11/18: Holes in the system? (RealVideo) "With 45 days remaining until all guns in Canada are supposed to be registered, we have new information tonight about an astounding gun seizure in Winnipeg that is revealing some pretty large holes in the system. Police seized so many weapons from a small home in Winnipeg that it took all weekend to catalogue them. Now they have. And there are hundreds including missiles and grenades." 11/18: Britain and Kuwait foil Arab attacks 11/18: Added Canada to News Links 11/17: Petition of Support for Israel "THEREFORE WE PETITION the President and the United States Government to unequivocally support the state of Israel in her right to exist, in her struggle against terrorism, in her God given right to her land, and to Jerusalem, to stand unmoved, undivided, as her capital, her eternal city."
11/16:
JAT Robinson: John A.T. Robinson Remembered 11/14: A Preterist View - Sunday Live Streaming Video - Ministry of FPC in Fairbanks, Alaska (Download 'Free RealOne Player') 11/14: Powell Attack Dispensationalists For Rhetoric 11/11: Analysis of the Revelation "..through the prevalence of what may be called the "Nero-theory" of the book, the pendulum swung strongly in favor of its composition shortly after the death of Nero, and before the destruction of Jerusalem (held to be shown to be still standing by Revelation 11), i.e. about 68-69 AD. This date was even held to be demonstrated beyond all question." 11/11: God's Terrible Warnings Against Preterism - "In order to justify the Preterist view, apologists either completely ignore or torture the relevant end0times prophecies, along with the known facts of history. Preterists can cite no credible early church or historical support for a pre-70 dating for Revelation. Further destroying their claim, and important church father named Polycarp, a disciple of John, wrote that Revelation was written during the reign of Domition." 11/11: The time elements in Revelation: Especially "I am coming soon" 11/11: Internet Resources: The Apocalypse of John 11/11: Which School Do You Attend? "Alcazar's preterist system has never made any impact on the conservative, or evangelical wing of the Protestant movement, although in the last one hundred years it has become popular among Protestant rationalists and liberals." 11/11: Apocalyptic book series stirring debate - study? "Tim LaHaye has been called a ''pseudo-theologian,'' preacher of fear, biblical distorter." 11/11: Israeli archeologists find Iron Age cultic relics 11/10: Could Israel join the EU? 11/7: Bill Moore "From a preterist perspective, 1 Enoch adds considerable weight to the many passages in the New Testament which clearly indicate that the consummation of the age together with Christ’s second coming took place in A.D. 70 (in the destruction of Jerusalem). This being the case, it should not surprise us to learn that 1 Enoch was banned by Hilary, Jerome, and Augustine and was subsequently lost to Western Christendom for over a thousand years. In short, it was suppressed. Why? Because it could not be made to fit their idea that Christ’s coming had not yet been fulfilled." 11/7: The Thirteenth Tribe - Arthur Koestler
"The evidence presented in the previous chapters adds up to a strong
case in favour of those modern historians - whether Austrian, Israeli or
Polish - who, independently from each other, have argued that the bulk
of modern Jewry is not of Palestinian, but of Caucasian origin. The
mainstream of Jewish migrations did not flow from the Mediterranean
across France and Germany to the east and then back again. The stream
moved in a consistently westerly direction, from the Caucasus through
the Ukraine into Poland and thence into Central Europe. When that
unprecedented mass settlement in Poland came into being, there were
simply not enough Jews around in the west to account for it, while in
the east a whole nation was on the move to new frontiers". In Mr. Koestler's own words, "The story of the Khazar Empire, as it slowly emerges from the past, begins to look like the most cruel hoax which history has ever perpetrated." "As expected, The Thirteenth Tribe caused a stir when published in 1976, since it demolishes ancient racial and ethnic dogmas...At the height of the controversy in 1983, the lifeless bodies of Arthur Koestler and his wife were found in their London home. Despite significant inconsistencies, the police ruled their death a suicide."
11/5: Peshito.com Read Murdock's literal translation! (download for OnlineBible on Mac) | Murdock "The Revelation, which was made by God to John the Evangelist, in the island of Patmos, to which he was banished by Nero the Emperor." Matt 24:34 Verily I say to you, That this generation shall not pass away, till all these things shall be. | Etheridge THE REVELATION WHICH WAS MADE UNTO JUHANON THE EVANGELIST, FROM ALOHA, IN PATHAMON THE ISLAND, WHITHER HE HAD BEEN CAST BY NERO CAESAR.
Blessed is he who readeth, and they who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those which are written therein; for the time hath approached. |
11/4: WashPost: Back Door to Bush - "The old general emerged beaming. "As far as I can remember -- I can look back for many years now -- I think we have never had such relations with any president of the United States as we have with you," he told Bush before the assembled media. "We never had such a cooperation in everything as we have had with the current administration." 11/4: The Armageddon Wall "A simple bulge in an ancient wall of Jerusalem’s Old City has some Israelis fretting about Armageddon. It’s not just any wall. In this case, the old rocks help support an enormous stone platform that holds the Al Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock, among Islam’s most sacred shrines." 11/4: Jewish militant on life-support
10/31: Defense in the Major Case Against Christ, Christianity, and the Bible." By John Noē - To Be "Presented at the 54th Annual Meeting of the Evangelical Theological Society in Toronto, Canada, November 2002 " 10/31: Manifesto Log 10/31: BBC: Arrest Call for new Israeli Defense Minsiter - "Allegations of war crimes against General Mofaz. The allegations include instructions to assassinate, torture and demolish houses.
10/31: Palestinians query viability of two states 10/31: Shaul Mofaz new defense minister |
AW: Scotland Yard investigates? | Meanwhile Jenin muders | JPost: Good choice? 10/31: Israel faces swing to right as coalition government fails - "Labour's pullout leaves Mr Sharon five seats short of a majority and he faces a no-confidence motion on Monday. He is looking to parties such as the National Union-Yisrael Beiteinu for support. But its leader, Avigdor Lieberman, said he favoured swift elections." 10/31: Secrets of Saddam's E-Mail Inbox 10/28: Stone-Campbell Journal Review of N.T. Wright's Jesus and the Victory of God | Stone-Campbell Journal 10/28: Roman Catholic Church in Catechism of the Catholic Church : "The Church has rejected even modified forms of this falsification of the kingdom to come under the name of millenarianism..." (676) 10/28: Church of Christ Q&A reveals: If Christ has not come, then Christians do not go to heaven when they die "Q: If Christians go to heaven when they die, then who is Jesus going to resurrect at his coming when the dead in Christ shall rise? A: One thing for sure, there will be a bodily resurrection. It will be a spiritual body as described by Paul in I Corinthians 15. It will not be a resurrection of the spirit, but of the body, just like Jesus. It is true that the Scriptures teach us that at death, the spirit leaves the physical body. It departs to a temporary resting place as described in Luke 16. The physical body returns to the dust of the ground while the spirit awaits the resurrection and a new body. The following passages will help you: I Corinthians 15:1-58, Luke 16:19-31, Ecclesiastes 12:7, and I Thessalonians 4:13-18. Study them carefully. They will reveal the truth
10/27: The Consummation of the Pre-Messianic age and the Parousia of Christ - Milton S. Terry 10/27: Meet the new Zionists 10/27: Texas Baptist Fourm - "Falwell and other dispensationalists suffer from warped christology. Prophecy is understood only when God's plan in Christ is understood. Dispensationalists like Falwell, Hal Lindsey and Tim LaHaye talk of a future conversion of the Jews but do nothing to bring it about, since they erroneously imagine that it won't happen until after a fictitious secret coming of Christ they call the rapture."
10/25:
An Answer to Trotter's "Naughty Names" - David Johnson "The issue of the resurrection is inseparably tied to the Lord’s coming, the coming of His kingdom, and the judgment. Any serious study on the resurrection must deal with these events and how they relate to one another." 10/25: Matthew 16:28 A Time Statement for What? - Bill Grimes "Evil still thrives. Just look around you. You see diseases, death, murder, economic oppression, genocide, hate, pride, fornication, adultery, etc. The list goes on and on. In 2 Peter 3, Simon Peter compares the future destruction of this world by fire to the worldwide flood of Noah. God destroyed all evil by a flood of real, wet water. He will destroy it again by a real, hot fire. It is contrary to God’s holiness for Him to allow evil to persist forever, which is what full Preterists are suggesting. " 10/25: Jots, Tittles, and the Kingdom of Heaven - Bill Grimes "So, are we in the new heavens and the new earth? No, for the reasons I have stated in my most recent article, A Letter to a Full Preterist . If not, is it true that not one jot or tittle has passed from the law? Yes, God’s word stands forever. None of God’s Word will fail or pass away. Is the Old Covenant Law still binding then in every jot and tittle? If not, why not? No, because Jesus finished the work which He came to do." 10/25: "Left Behind" Aims for TV "Any projects to put "Left Behind" in a television format has been obscured by bringing the days following the Tribulation Period (????) to the big Screen. It was previewed for one hour on ABC this past Sunday and it is impressive! - Bob" 10/25: What Faith is This? Dave Hunt and Misrepresentation 10/25: JPost: Newest Anti-Israel Campaign: Divestment 10/24: Kurt Simmons' Preterist Central 10/24: Sucking hatred from the poet's head "Who told 4000 Israeli workers at the Twin Towers / To stay home that day / Why did Sharon stay away?" 10/24: Zionist Christians targeted by Hezbollah
10/23: Q&A: Is There a Connection Between AD70 and Resurrection Life? 10/23: PARRESIA: Greek Orthodox Preterism - Leave Comments! - "The Preterist view takes a very straight forward, and quite simple interpretation of Revelation. It basically takes John at his word..."these events are at arms' length" meaning, these prophecies are going to happen SOON." 10/23: The Apocalypse By (Greek Orthodox) Father Steven Tsichlis - "The Jews, after their failed revolt of 66-70AD, called Rome “Babylon” because it had destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem just as the real Babylon had done in 587 BC. 10/23: Christian BBS Forums 10/23: Progressive Dispensationalism 102 10/23: Thomas Traherne (1636-1674) 350 year old Christian mystic to be published - "How blessed are thy holy people, how divine, how highly exalted! Heaven itself is under their feet! The Earth seems to swell with pride that it bears them all; all its treasures laugh and sing to serve them." 10/23: Thomas Traherne (1637-1674): His Search for Felicity "Though devoutly Christian in approach and expression, Traherne clearly does not subscribe to the popular intent" 10/23: Centuries of Meditation - Traherne 10/23: My Journey - By G.R. Gaudreau - "Preterism was a watershed for me. It brought all the different problems and doubts into one place and put them into focus as never before. It forced me to see that the church could be wrong about a major doctrine and that it had been wrong for a long time.." Added G.R. Gaudreau, Preterist Skeptic to Outside Study Links 10/22: Israel plans to ask USA for aid that could top $10 billion 10/22: Peres: Israel formally accepts "two countries for two peoples" 10/22: IRNA: Zionist lobby (SW) urges recall UKs Israeli ambassador "Cowper-Coles accused Israel of confining 3.5 million Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza to the 'largest detention camp in the world' and said Ariel Sharon's regime was failing to show 'leadership for peace.' - "If substantiated, we urge the prompt recall of Mr. Cowper-Coles for Holocaust revisionism, banalization of the memory of its victims and endorsement of the most extreme voices of Palestinian anti-semitism," 10/22: JerusalemPost: Dividing Jerusalem "There was a consensus at the conference on the need to divide the capital and hand over the Arab neighborhoods to the PA. They said this was the only way to achieve a just and everlasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians." 10/21: Victory Review: October 2002 "Nevertheless David took the Stronghold of Zion" 10/21: Take the Reason By Faith Poll ; Join the Discussion List 10/21: Typology: A Legitimate Approach?
10/19: Added Cephas Ministry: Preterism | John Ankerberg | Historicist.com - Problems with Preterism | Refutation of Preterism to Anti-Preterist Outside Study Links 10/19: Anyone have a copy of "The Merciful God of Prophecy" By Tim LaHaye? We need to archive the many Anti-Preterist quotes.. 10/18: What About Paul's "Man of Sin"? John Noé 10/18: An Eschatology of Victory - Vern Mason 10/18: Pushing off Preterism "A reader directed me to a Christian site that presented some arguments against preterism and asked us to evaluate their arguments. This site goes under the name "In Depth Bible Studies" and is run by two apparently earnest young people who are laymen." 10/18: The Book of Revelation: Introduction Jim Seghers "It is the position in this commentary that the text itself as well as external evidence overwhelmingly supports a preterist interpretation. Specifically, the Book of Revelation was written to comfort first century Christians who were undergoing a deadly persecution from pharisaical Judaism" 10/18: Great Awakening Group
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Problems with Preterism - HTML File /
Problems with Preterism - MP3 File 10/14: Jerry Falwell Targeted for Death according to a report in the Farsi-language newspaper Abrar 10/14: If Christ Has Not Come "The Futurist needs to rethink everything, because under their belief we should be living under the Law of Moses still, to be consistent with scripture." 10/14: Christians Rally for Israel in Washington "And I want you to know," Olmert told his audience, "how much we need your friendship and support and how much we respect these expressions of support that come from this evangelical community of great believers and lovers of Zion. We are partners. We are friends. ... G-d bless all of you. G-d bless America." 10/14: Is there anything dumber than repudiating Christians who support Israel? 10/14: Preterist Discourse 10/11:
National Catholic Reporter :
Will Fundamentalist Jews and Christians Ignite Armageddon?
10/10: Why it is Perfectly OK to say Naughty Things About Heretical Preterists "This is typical of the slick rhetorical tricks heretical preterists like to use. The reader will notice that the logic I've given above pierces their buncombe. That the heretical preterists (given their premises) are right about the timing of the resurrection, and that the ancient Hymenaeans were wrong about the timing of the resurrection, is absolutely irrelevant to Paul's anger and condemnation of Hymenaeus and company. Paul could not have possibly gotten that upset over a few decades worth of difference in timing between himself and Hymenaeus." 10/10:
Is Tim LaHaye the Antichrist? - Dan Trotter's Good partial Pret/Anti-Pret Site 10/8: NY Times: Rapture and Rupture By Maureen Dowd "Evangelicals fervently support Israel for theological reasons of their own, based on a literal reading of the Book of Revelation that entwines the Jewish commonwealth with the Apocalypse and Second Coming. As Jerry Falwell instructs: "You and I know that there's not going to be any real peace in the Middle East until one day the Lord Jesus Christ sits on the throne of David in Jerusalem." 10/8: Ha'Aretz: France poll finds Israel voted second biggest world threat The survey was conducted jointly by five local dailies in northwest France, which have a combined readership of about 175,000. 10/7: Maureen Dowd / Miklaszewski on "Influencial Jewish Conservatives" - Are Jews within the Bush Administration pushing the war effort? 10/7: NY Times: 13 Palestinians killed in Gaza Raid "Israeli troops also fired machine guns and semiautomatic weapons toward Nasser hospital"
10/6: The Berean Newsletter By David Cooper - www.PreterismAustralia.com 10/6: Christian Solidarity with Israel Ralley - "Sign the “Christian Solidarity with Israel Wall.” This declaration will be presented to the President of the United States & to the Prime Minister of Israel." 10/7: In Congress, anti-Israel voices will be muted ``Support for Israel among candidates running for Congress has never been higher," said an American Israel Public Affairs Committee official who follows elections closely. ``That's a reflection of the strong support Israel enjoys throughout the country now." 10/3: Falwell Boasts of Political Power CBS: "Falwell hints that the Christian Right influences U.S. government policy toward Israel. There are 70 million of us…[and] there’s nothing that would bring the wrath of the Christian public in this country down on this government like abandoning or opposing Israel on a critical matter,” Falwell tells Simon. “God save us from these people,” says Israeli political analyst Yossi Alpher. “When you see what these people are encouraging Israel and the U.S. to do…ignore the Palestinians, kick them out…they are leading us into a scenario of out-and-out disaster,” he tells Simon." 10/3: http://www.newcovenantministries.com New Preterist Link!
10/2: Fereydoun Hoveyda Speaks His Heart and Mind on the Issues An Interview with Mark Dankof for Global News Net ( GNN) | Col. Mosby 10/1:
Preterists Yahoo Group Fantastic Yahoo Group. Please bring peace, not strife 10/1: The Law is Fulfilled By David Curtis "The Mosaic Law is a unit. It exists as a unit or not at all. This notion that the Mosaic Law can be sliced and diced into ceremonial, civil, and moral is not one that you will find anywhere in the Bible. " 9/30: Jerusalem Post: Top Iraqi official: US motivated by Zionism "The Americans' aspirations are based not on a desire to destroy weapons of mass destruction, but on other goals, to support Zionism and seize sources of oil, to put pressure on all the countries of the world for the sake of American strategic security and so that Israel can control the whole world." 9/30: JN: Exploring Zionism "Whether or not a person feels the growth of the State of Israel is messianic in nature can determine his degree of flexibility in terms of giving up land to the Arabs and whether there is room for negotiation.” 9/30: 'Guardians of Jewish Race': Palestine Does Not Belong to Zionists "The rabbi referred to Zionism as the main obstacle in the way of of achieving peace in the Middle East, emphasizing, "we favor a peaceful end to the entity of Israel." 9/30: Sign of the groundhog "When I was growing up, the world came to an end twice on Sunday and six more times during the week whenever there was a revival. The Bible is a huge book, but it seems to me that a large number of the preachers that I was exposed to had wandered into the Book of Revelation and were unable to find their way back out." 9/28: Protestantism, Postmillennialsm and Anti-Preterism 9/28: Scoffers: Preterists in II Peter - James Lloyd "Although preterists chafe at the idea of any relationship between their doctrine and the rapturists, the two doctrines are actually closely related. They both agree that the church misses the tribulation, they both characterize the final empire as the Roman and they are both inextricably committed to a union with the state through licensing and a politically expedient symbiotic relationship with the beast government. " 9/28: Great Joy in Great Tribulation: Preterism - "ONE THING THAT SEEMED UNIMAGINABLE IN 1995 IS THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE EMBRACING THE PRETERIST VIEW OF THE BOOK OF REVELATION. PRETERISM is also a form of rebellion against the Word of God. Blessings follow obedience to the Word of God and there will be a price to pay for rebellion. So how do we help the PRETERIST brethren from their new strong delusion? Simply do like Jesus did and ask them some simple questions, like - When did Jesus split the Mount of Olives in two? You see, IF has all happened, they should be able to tell you when Jesus touched down and split the Mount of Olives in two at His return. I am sure you will be able to think of many such simple questions. " 9/28: The Defined Lie of Preterism "Recently, I became aware of a growing heresy among the Apostolic churches that threaten the salvation of so many tender saints. It is so serious that I have, under the leading of the Holy Spirit, changed the focus of my ministry to becoming a watchman on the wall, warning of the invasion of damnable doctrines. This heresy is so dangerous that those who are deceived into it lose their convictions when it comes to the areas of spiritual preparedness. This heresy has gone by many names in the past. It has been called Hymaneusism, Amillennialism, and now, it is known commonly as Preterism. Yes, you heard right…Preterism." 9/28: Do Preterists Spiritualize the Bible? - SoulDevice 9/28: Defending against Preterism - "Preterists maintain that the events of Revelation were fulfilled by AD70. For this to be true they maintain that the book of Revelation was written in 66-68 AD and they do some interesting tricks to try to make people believe it was. The common school of thought is that Revelation was written around 95AD which brings the Preterist point of view to a grinding halt." 9/28: Muddy Water - "The next point that I would make in distinguishing Separatist Preterism from Judeo Preterism or Humanistic Preterism is that Christ taught that He would return in the bone of His bone and flesh of His flesh which were His people or His Body Politic" 9/28: Through the Bible with Les Feldick Newsletter - Preterism. Don't Believe it! 9/28:
Wayne Jackson:
What is the meaning of 'shortly come to pass'? 9/28: Is the Great Tribulation future or fulfilled? |
NRSV on "long ending" of Mark 16 PROOF OF EARLY CHRISTIAN PRETERISM? "..some manuscripts include the following very interesting exchange: "And they excused themselves, saying, 'This age of lawlessness and unbelief is under Satan, who does not allow the truth and power of God to prevail over the unclean things of the spirits. Therefore reveal your righteousness now' -- thus they spoke to Christ. And Christ replied to them, ' The term of years of Satan's power has been fulfilled, but other terrible things draw near.. And for those who have sinned, I was handed over to death, that they may return to the truth and sin no more..." (Inserted in Mark 16:14, NRSV)

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INDEPENDENT SOURCES Resurrection Debate: Past or Future? Gene Cook, Jr. (PPret) and H.L. James (Pret) Part One ; Part Two
GWB Comment: Preterist or Futurist? White House's Official Easter Message "Easter Sunday commemorates in song and celebration the joy and promise of Christ's triumph over evil and death." "For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death." 1 Corinthians 15:25-26 "The destruction of Jerusalem was more terrible than anything that the world has ever witnessed, either before or since. Even Titus seemed to see in his cruel work the hand of an avenging God." (C.H. Spurgeon, Commentary on Matthew, p. 412) Significance of AD70 "the Preteristic method of interpretation has a long history" - Dennis M. Swanson "May those in the preterist movement never crystallize around a narrow set of preterist principles and exclude other Christians over it." - Ed Stevens
"We do not debate (full Preterists), we refute them. We also excommunicate them. We say loudly and publicly and often, "These men are not of us. They have departed from us. They are not Christians." - Brian Abshire
Christ's Second Coming as a Past Event: 4th to 19th Centuries
St. Chrysostom (4th Century) "Having in remembrance, therefore, this saving commandment and all those things which have come to pass for us: the Cross, the Grave, the Resurrection on the third day, the Ascension into heaven, the Sitting at the right hand, and the second and glorious Coming" (St. Chrysostom's Liturgy)
Philip Schaff (19th Century) "This being so, then the words relating to a personal return of Jesus are to be taken as pointing to the Destruction of Jerusalem (Mat. x.23; xvi.28)." (Second Advent)
"This view may sound novel, but in reality there have been orthodox adherents to it throughout church history." - C. J. Seraiah
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01 Enoch 02 Methuselah 03 Lamech 04 Noah 05 Shem 06 Arphaxad 07 Cainan 08 Shelah 09 Eber 10 Peleg 11 Rue 12 Serug 13 Nahor 14 Terah 15 Abrahahm 16 Isaac 17 Jacob 18 Judah 19 Perez 20 Hezron 21 Ram 22 Amminadab 23 Nahshon 24 Salmon 25 Boaz 26 Obed 27 Jesse 28 David 29 Nathan 30 Mattatha 31 Menna 32 Melea 33 Eliakim 34 Jonam 35 Joseph 36 Judah 37 Simeon 38 Levi 39 Matthat 40 Jorim 41 Eliezer 42 Joshua 43 Er 44 Elmadam 45 Cosam 46 Addi 47 Melki 48 Neri 49 Shealtiel 50 Zerubbabel 51 Rhesa 52 Joanan 53 Joda 54 Josech 55 Semein 56 Mattathias 57 Maath 58 Naggai 59 Esli 60 Nahum 61 Amos 62 Mattathias 63 Joseph 64 Jannai 65 Melki 66 Levi 67 Matthat 68 Heli 69 Joseph 70 Jesus
11/1/2: "Moderate earthquakes also shook Indonesia and Pakistan earlier Sunday, but the activity is not related nor unusual, said Waverly Person, geophysicist at U.S. Geological Survey. “On any given day, we located about 50 earthquakes throughout the world,” Person said. “This to us is pretty normal.” He said the death toll from an Italian quake last week may have made more people notice the quake activity. “They begin to think all of this adds up, but it doesn’t,” Person said. Free Preterist Booklet "What the Bible Says About Israel" By John L. Bray, P.O. Box 90129, Lakeland, FL 33804 "..though I was not yet a full preterist myself at that time, I questioned [David Chilton] as to why he put the fulfillment of Matthew 25 at A.D.70 in one place, but in our future in another place." - "Biblical Perspectives," 10/14/2002
R.C. Sproul "I can never read the New Testament again the same way I read it before reading
The Parousia
. I hope better scholars than I will continue to analyze and evaluate the content of J. Stuart Russell's important work." |