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I enjoyed the A&E show, apart from all of the redaction, compromising, etc... I noticed how they were ruthless on the second coming "non-occurance" problem of Futurist Christianity. It seems to me that the Preterist view (p or pp) is the only answer to that...
Todd this is Bob usmc1div. After using your site I can only confess how little I know about the vast volume of information available and what an incredible job you have done. I pray that everyone who logs on to preteristarchive.com appreciates how far they can go in researching preterism. I linked on to Jerry Falwell's site and it is well designed. I can not believe I was his Co-Pastor from 1966-67! I certainly have no affinity with him now, although I do respect him as a person.
Todd,
It's been about two years, now, since I did my first internet investigation into Preterism. Your site was the first one that I visited, and I remember how totally bowled over I was by the depth and quality of research that you present. I still visit the site at least once-a-day and continue to be impressed -- not only by the various authors that you feature, but by your own insights, as well.
Your site introduced me to Ward Fenley, too. Ward has been an excellent foil for discussion; having shown me several alternatives and explanations to concepts that I have found puzzling over the years. Since you and Ward, I've come to find Don K. Preston, Tim King, Ken Davies, Jack Gillespie and many others who have web sites devoted to the study of Preterism and the Fulfilled Eschatological view. Each of these men is a true blessing, for which I am grateful to the Lord.
God's blessing to you and yours as well.
Fraternally, Steve Smith
you should teach love and tolerance not hate.
Shalom, Benjamin Kinder FWWR "For a World Without Racism" www.angelfire.com/va2/fwwr/
To all you hate groups. You guys are nothing but hate!!!
America (this goes for Europe as well) will forever be full of Jews, Blacks, Yellows, Browns, Reds (the original Americans!), and all the other immigrates that made America strong! In fact, demographically speaking by the year 2015 or 2020 Whites will be a minority in the USA. I as a White man will help all the other nationalities in America keep evil Nazis like you in check - FOREVER!
Alant Jost
P.S. Partly by propagating inter racial marriage
As a person who has for quite a while enjoyed your site, I was surprised to see it is listed as "anti-semitic" by HateWatch (http://www.hatewatch.org). I do not think that is a just portrayal of your site and wanted to let you know in case you were not aware.<P>
I am sorry to have to tell you this and I can appreciate you may be very surprised (as was I) that your site could be interpreted in such a way. <P> I understand from hearsay that the people operating the HateWatch site can be reasoned with, and I am sure that with some second thought your site would be dropped from their listings.<P>
Preterism misses the point. The promise to Israel was that they would never be rooted from the land (e.g. II Sam 7; Amos 9).
In my opinion, Matt 21:43 and II Peter 2:5 are strong evidence that the kingdom was to be taken from temporal Israel, and given to those in Christ.
The OT prophets are not opposed to this either. Keep in mind that the temporal is used to illustrate the eternal.. it is the preterist position that temporal Israel was detroyed to make way for that nation which is spiritually in Christ through his blood. Eph 2 is another place to look for this..
Oh I quite agree that the kingdom was taken from Israel and given to a nation bearing fruit. I also agree that the temporal is used to illustrate the eternal. This is where I find that preterists argue against themselves, especially in the book of Revelation. The Bible speaks for itself - Israel is to be miraculously resurrected and graft back into their olive tree. The promises to David are ETERNAL unlike the Mosaic law, and really is nothing to do with the Mosaic world.
Preterism is only half right. Remember, the book of Revelation was not written to the church in Jerusalem! And remember that the nation to whom the gospel was preached after the Jews rejected it have followed the same pattern! richard_morgan@manulife.com
I am thankful that the Lord has provided me the opportunity to learn from preterist archive. I thankful that I can learn more of the TRUTH that will set me free from the bondage of traditionalism and pre-concieved ideas. Thank you for providing such a helpful site to learn. I currently work as an assistant pastor at a church where the pastor believes in the doctrines of sovereign grace, yet teaches dispen.premill futurism. While holding this futurist view, he rejects and denys preterism. Pray that the Lord would continue to direct me in what I should do. It is frustrating to hear each service the dispen.premill doctrines. Thank you again for providing such a helpful and instructive site where I can grow and learn the TRUTH!
How do you start a new topic on the message board? I want to warn about the error of preterism and am not sure the guest book is the place to go into detail.
Thanks!
richard_morgan@manulife.com
I'll add a section. Great idea! todd
...recently browsing a poster from National Geographic that displays all of the great navigators who have steadily uncovered the geography of the globe...
They revealed, among other things, the "New World" which all Americans call home.. Amazing to me is that all of this discovery has been fairly recent to Western civilization... within the last 500 years!
We are growing and developing as a group like never before, imo. Things are not getting worse and worse, and there could be cited numerous other scientific, technological, theological, biological, medical sources to state that things are, rather, getting much, much better every day...
This is a New Covenant promise, in my opinion... that of the increase of his kingdom there would be no end. To me, the most amazing continual fulfillment of prophecy is the increase (harvest) of the eternal body of Christ, as his kingdom grows via the births of those who are His.
Isaiah 9:6-7 "of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end."
Daniel 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
just a thought...
"Things are not getting worse and worse"? This is a vain attempt to say that the Kingdom has come. It is patently obvious that the earth is not full of the glory of the LORD and less and less people are religious, let along embracing any form of Christianity. Christianity itself is getting less Biblical all the time. Things ARE getting worse, and if this is the Kingdom of God then God is very weak! richard_morgan@manulife.com
Dearest brothers, Recently I received a couple of questions from a visitor of our web page. At certain extent it took me by surprise, because I had not received such a questions like these, and I never took the time to think on these points as carefully as I had to. These are the questions:
1) What happen with those who are not believers and died after the Parousia until our days? How and when are they going to be judged and condemned?
2) Is there some significant ontological difference between the church of Jesus before and after the Parousia? Can we properly call both of them the "Body of Christ"? Is the church of Jesus Christ as the "Body of Christ" to be extended and growing by the centuries on without and end?
Would you please be so kind to give me your point of view on these issues?
Likewise, If you know about some articles or books that deal with this issue, I aprreciate your directions how to get them.
In His service José Antonio Septién
Since coming to the realization of preterism, I have felt more freedom and joy (after the shock of leaving the "left behind waitin on the rapture" mentality) than I ever remember when I was a dispensationalist.
Just a couple of days ago, my husband and I were driving home from an evening jog and the sky was glorious. It was at sunset, but it was very cloudly with the exception of a moment when there was a blazing red area at the horizon! It was an awesome sight.
I told my husband, ya know what I used to think every time the sky was especially beautiful or unique? I'd wonder if that is what it is going to look like when Jesus "comes"! I couldn't just enjoy it! But now, I can look with amazement and awe and thanksgiving at how God has truly made his presence and his kingdom known on this earth and I just praise him for it! I don't have to WAIT anymore for it, IT is all around us! Amen!
In Wonder at His Works! Myra
Dear Rodney:
Welcome to the 21st century and modem-mania. To those reading this I was Rodney's Pastor all of his life and he is an outstanding student of the Word. He just recently went on the WEB, partly due to his friend Scott and partly due to my prodding [Robert G. Williams usmc1div@earthlink.net] to see the material on preteristarchive.come first hand. He has been excited since he logged on for the first tiem. WELCOME, ROD......ENJOY!
Hello Todd,
My name is Bob Emery. I contacted you about a year ago, but you may not remember. I've published a book called An Evening in Ephesus, which is a dramatic commentary on the book of revelation as told from the voice of the apostle John (who had been released from exile on Patmos and who was visiting Ephesus. There at a house church meeting he answers questions that the church had in regard to the letter he had sent them some years earlier containing the revelation.) A preview of the book can be seen at the following website: www.TheRevelation.com I would like to know 1)If you could include the book on your website as a resource for materials written from the partial preterist viewpoint. 2)If you have not read it, if you would like a copy to review. 3)If you could recommend to me other places I might go that might be interested in carrying or distributing the book. Thanks for your help. I look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely in Christ,
Bob Emery, author.
I have been a full preterist since 1970. I am interested in getting together with other full preterists (if there are any) in the St. Petersburg area. Bill Moore NX89@cityisp.net
I't has been refreshing to find this web site. I've been reading books on the Parousia for 15 years. I check your site almost every day. God bless and keep up the good work.
Dear Todd: Alzheimer must be getting to me. I thought I had put my name and e-addresses on your site. Bro. Bob Williams, Pelham, N. C. usmc1div@earthlink.net. A Web page for beginning students of Preterism http://home.earthlink.net/~usmc1div Your site is the best....no commercials...no appeals for support [my check will be in the mail tomorrow], just Alexandrian, copious, rare and direct links to the best of both friends and not so friendly sites of Preterism. Me? I am a Full Preterist and I have had some hits on my small web study sites. Thanks for all your help and encouragement. Bob "Leatherneck-Gung Ho" Williams, 1st Marine Division, 7th Regiment, 2nd Battalion, Nuclear Security Specialist, Korean Veteran.
Dear Todd, This is not only a great site but a tremendous service to Christians who love the truth. I came to your site about 5 months ago and since then have visited full and partial preterist sites. I am moving towards the full preterist view. Once again thank you for your labor in HIS service. Richard Wittemann Charlotte, N.C.
Hi, is anyone in Columbus, Ohio. I'm new to the area. Full Preterist. Joe
Just gotta say, I've been studying and studying and studying to show myself approved and what I keep getting to is something no one else around me does. Preterism. Is it because I'm actaully studying? It's good to see that there are others out there who feel the same way as do I. Oh how I have longed to walk into a Christian bookstore and see a "Great Tribulation" video or some such that WASN'T a futurist paradigm. Will it ever happen? There's the fun part...it already did.
Great Post! I have always taken advantage of the distinct pleasure of introducing all local bookstore owners to great Preterist books (given to them at no charge).
Titles include Russell's "Parousia," Noe's "Beyond the End Times," and Gregg's "Revelation: Four Views." The books are always received with great glee (what book owner doesn't love free books?), and in most cases, some Preterist books instantly find their way to the shelves!
Most store owners are looking for trends in Christianity... Ask for Preterist books, even if you cannot give books, and that will help put books on the shelf.
btw, all is well here in Alaska.. the beauty of springtime and summer here balance the intensity of our -55F winter, for sure! Todd
Steve of http://www.shasta.com/sphaws/mainmenu.html
Thought you'd get a laugh from my "End Times" theory: http://www.shasta.com/sphaws/endtimes.html Can't Handle This!
Really enjoy this site.
Just passing through, great site....I'll be back. Best wishes, Donna
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I have no comments yet about your site! I used to be a dispensationalist, but I see its errors are foundational. I also see Covenant Theology as having the same foundational errors! I have been intrigued with the full preterist view, but I see it as an unnecessary attempt to cover for the inconsistencies of the Covenant Theology theory. That is the undoing of the Apocalypse. I have a real problem with the Church fathers accepting the Apocalypse of John as having any value for the Christian community if it was dated. Do you have evidence that the early church held to any kind of full preterist view that would cause them to reject John's Revelation from being cannonized.
The Polemist at abbahouse@usa.net
The partial preterist view was presented to me for the first time last year at R.C. Sproul's conference in Orlando. Dr. Ken Gentry explained the concept very well, and since then I have been I have been drawn to the subject. I confess that I have never been satisfied with any of the popular escatological views, and the partial preterest view satisfies my spirit better than anything I have studied. Thanks for being there. Ed Williamson fcs@ceebic.org
Just a note...
I have been waiting for this date for a few years now.. Everytime I hear a new prediction for the coming of Christ or the end of the world, I like to mark it on my calendar.
May 5, 2000 saw the planets align, without the attendant Armageddon expected by some.
If anyone has heard of upcoming "rapture datelines", please share with the rest of us! =)
The idea is not to mock, but to reflect back to the Futurist community the horrible witness (in my opinion) their doctrine gives to Christ. The biggest issue in Futurist theological circles right now should be addressing how the "second coming problem" of Albert Schweitzer and Bertrand Russell is solved by the Preterist view. - Todd
I would also like to take the opportunity to thank you for making available the Preterist Archive.
A little more than a month ago, I was first exposed to the Preterist perspective by a friend. I was a guest in his home, we got to talking, he mentioned his views on eschatology, and I was naturally curious.
I am coming from a Dispensationalist perspective, and I had never heard of Preterism before. Since that time, I have been studying this perspective and your website has been a great help. I have also purchased a couple of books. I still have much studying to do.
In all honesty, I had become somewhat disenchanted with the Dispensational perspective, due to some questions that I have had for a long time, and some prophetic current events items presented by some that have not come to pass. For example, I have read in the past few years of this growing movement afoot in Israel to rebuild the Temple, create all the utensils and prepare for animal sacrifices to start again. They present the notion that this movement is growing in popularity and will come to fruition soon.
I have a friend who is a Biblical archaeologist (dispensational perspective) who has spent much of his life in the Holy land. When I saw him last fall, I asked him about this movement. He was honest and said that there is a very small minority of the orthodox Jews in Israel who desire to do such a thing. His opinion was that it was probably 5% or less of the people, and that he didn't expect anything like that to happen soon. When I first became a Christian approximately twenty years ago, folks were talking about the European Economic Community reaching ten nations (at that time they were at about eight or nine, I think), and being the Revised Roman Empire. Well now the EEC is about 12-13 and it has not happened. I have talked with many older Christians who shared with me that during World War II, people believed that Mussolini was the Antichrist. It is things like these, that cause me to really question the Dispensational perspective.
While, I still have many questions, I find that the Preterist perspective has some honest answers that seem to make a lot of sense. At this point, I don't see too much of a problem with a partial Preterist perspective. However, I need to continue further study to be convinced of the full perspective. I am sure it will take some time.
I have not yet discussed my studies with many of my Christian friends, as I don't feel I know enough about Preterism to make a satisfactory defense. I have experienced the ridicule of some for even entertaining "such a strange perspective". If and when, I go public (I am an elder in my church), I expect I will experience some problems, I will be accused of "wrongly dividing the Word", and perhaps heresy. I will need to be prepared to fully defend my position, and sad to say, I may be driven from my fellowship.
In Christ..
Greetings. I was really impressed with the web page and available information that you provide. I am a pastor in north Georgia and it is my mission to establish an apostolic work in this area. I realize one of the most paralyzing heresies is that of the rapture. I have been given the mission to tear down the false and to re-establish the real. Thanks again for such a great web! Bobby Phelps
I have been studying the Preterist or fufilled position for several years now! I have just recently been able to explore the net! I am surprise on how fast this view has grown! I would be considered a heretic in believing the Coming of Christ has already taken place. I still believe the 1000 year period in Revelation 20 is a symbol for a long period time and was a reward for the faithful of the Bible days and began with the Gathering up the Old Covenant Saints and firstfruits into Glory!and is not from 30 AD to 70AD. I believe the wicked as a group will be cut off and The Election of all ages (A definite number that no man can count) will be glorified sometime (maybe many centuries) in the future. So I would be considered to be partial futuristic by some! The nature of the rapture and Ressurection is a worthly discusssion for the Church to engage in. I will call myself THE DOVE! We are living in Exciting times!
This is the Dove! I wanted to add that my belief is that Water Baptism and the Sign gift fufilled their God given purpose by 70 AD.
Rachel Quinn
I am enjoying your site, and I am glad to know there are others out there who don't read the Bible with wooden literalism. After a recent thourough Bible study concerning the different interpretations of Revelations, I became an amillinial preterest. It just makes the most sense. Thank you for your site. I will be sure to use it for reference.
Hey Todd...
Great site! Btw...I'm in the YoungPreterists egroup along with you. =) Can you do me a favor? I listed myself in your database ( State: PA)as a partial preterist a while back. I went ahead and submitted a new form, so you'll probably see to remove the old one. My name is Jonathan Companik. thanks a lot. =)
If there's anyone out there who would like to communicate with a full preterist, post-mill theonomist and Presbyterian from the Keystone State, just e-mail me at dominion-dude@juno.com
--Jonathan
My question is What is the FIRST RESSURECTION IN REVELATION 20 AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN THE REST OF THE DEAD LIVE NOT AGAIN UNTIL THE 1000 YEARS ARE OVER FROM A FULL PRETERIST POINT OF VIEW. QUESTION FROM THE DOVE
FROM THE DOVE: I AM VERY CLOSE TO A FULL PRETERIST POSITION; WITH SOME RESERVATIONS.
THE DOVE: THE MORE I STUDY THE MORE I AM LED TOWARD A FULL PRETERIST POSITION: STILL STUDYING!
Pretty sad that you guys are falling for the Great Apostasy" or "falling away" described in II THESS. But I guess GOD is just allowing his WORD to be fulfilled. If the preterest view holds any water; what is your interpretation of the diaspora and it's completion "when the fullness of the gentiles be complete, THEN the end will come"? You cling to a view propigated by the 1st Pope. In order to practice "christianity" in Rome, the church had to allegorize the books of Daniel and Revelation. The Roman panthiestic beliefs would not tolerate ONE God and the fact He would rule the earth on day. Your view seemed fine and good as the LORD tarried throughout the centuries, UNTIL, Israel was regathered into the land. Now the literal fulfillment of the BIBLE is coming to pass. Don't you see that? Are you as blind as Israel too? Please don't partake of the synagogue of Satan REV 2&3.
Read Matthew 24 Fulfilled and Bible Prophecy by John Bray and they made a believer out of me ! It was like I had suspected for years that somthing was not right about all the hipe of the Rapture business. Even the" left behind "books made me realize if the bible says that Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God,then where are all the bodies going? It has to be a false belief,its got to be spiritual.
That's the whole point, you said that you gave up on the "rapture business". That's what the Bible says would happen in the last days. "scoffers would come saying; 'where is the promise of His coming, surely the fathers have fallen asleep, all things CONTINUE AS THEY WERE FROM THE BEGINNING."
Don't you understand what you're saying? Are you preparing for the tribulation?
Thoroughly enjoy your site, The Truth really does set you free. I am a full preterist for the past 9 mths.I was interduced to your archive at that time;At the same time I joined a full Pentecostal Preterist church led by the Holy Spirit of the Lord. In Mansfield Ohio. We are truely the elect and the enlightened of our Lord Jesus. By His example, we walk after him. holyhay@netzero.net
I foresee thousands of futurists bitterly disappointed on their death beds when nothing that they expected to happen comes to pass...
Preterist is a new word to me,but the idea is as old as reading history of the Greeks and Romans.I have always wondered why some people take the bible so personal as to think it was written just for them . I will forever be thankful for the day that I found out that I was one (a Preterist) and now the scriptures make a lot more sence when you read it in context of the time factor. I thank John L.Bray and his books,Matthew 24 Fulfilled and Bible Prophecy. dean361@webtv.net
Preterist View is a curse to the Truth of Biblical prophecy...(I can be dogmatic too :)) -- anyway, this is how satan works, He hates Israel, and Israel, not America or any other nation is the key to biblical prophecy.. and Israel has NEVER BEEN Divorced by GOD, Nor ever will be .. (tons of verses in Isaiah) Israel my friends, is the key to all biblical prophecy, not the greek concordance... Jesus will come again, and EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM, and the NATIONS WILL MOURN Because of HIM ... and He will Rule and Reign at THAT TIME.....
70 AD is not the TIme of His Return, nor is Joshepus an inspired book by the Holy Spirit..
Quickly, also, the Truth has been known since pauls day, in faith, Margreat McDonald did not start this, in fact, Sir Issac Newton beleived in the rapture(1 tHES 4:17) AND Sermons are all around the internet from well before 1800 on the rapture.... The Hope of the ages....
Oh Death where is thy victory (The raptured saints) Oh Grave where is thy Sting (The sleeping saints)
Praise God for His plan ---
Wayne
I have recently become aware of the Preterist view and am quite interested in learning all I can about it. Perhaps this hasn't been just by chance either - but I'm having a hard time dealing with my "futurist indoctrination" so to speak. I have many things I need to come to terms with regarding those prophecy issues but I'm definitely keeping the door open. Your website is extremely helpful!
It appears to me when I am reading Preterist literature that the writers seem to be saying that today, arter A D 70 that the born again son of God can lose his inheritance. While I believe this was so during the transition preiod, I do not see it this side of A D 70. What is your view? Nanny
Found information that I need in my study. I will be ordering some books. In God, Jim Douglas, jcdoug@microgear.net.
After I started reading those Left Behind books, I was left with some serious questions, and there was a "feeling" that this wasn't right, I found a Old King James Bible and engrossed myself and then I built a small website; The rapture THEN a 7 year tribulation is a HOAX!
I have a message board too! maisy
I have been a full preterist for the last 3 years. I thought I was alone. I am teaching this view to some people in my church. God is at work.
God Bless,
Rjr
Don Preston had a debate with Bill Lockwood, and both men tried to prove that God's "3" equaled the Pope's "2." See: 1 Cor 15.21-24.
Christ, & Christ's Coming & The End = 1 & 2 & 3.
These men taught me to count to three. Life has never been the same. I was brainwashed by the Pope to believe that: 3 = 2 -- just like you were.
So then, I know how the system works -- by censorship! If I could humble myself, why can you not humble yourself?
Williams
are there any preterists in australia
Christians cannot even agree on whether Christ's Kingdom is here or is not here, if Jesus came or is going to come or if He is here already, or if the Gospel Jesus preached was the Gospel apostle Paul preached. What do Christians agree on? I am not making fun. This is very serious. My email is abesourdough@onebox.com. Also, I do appreciate your site and all your hard work.
Great website! tons of info! kevin revkev201@yahoo.com
Can Preterism give a satisfactory explanation about Jesus's body at his resurrection. Wasn't his body flesh? I thought preterists believed that our bodies were left in the grave but we recieved a new spirit body? Jesus was not left in the tomb.
I an requesting HELP on fixing another book that the Preterist Archive can put online. The book i have is Biblical Apocalyptics (BA). The BA is already scand in MW 2000 doc format. If you are willing to help fix these pages with me, let me know and i will send you copies that you can help on. You must have a book in order to help.
hi (2Edge) and ewerybaddy - this might be intressting-(1) http://www.pilgrimpromo.com/WAR/ god bless you al in nasareen jesu name!in the bibel is the throught!
Dear brethren: We have an active Bible Study group meeting in and around Danville, Virginia. It is a serious study group, yet basic and interactive. If you have an interest in studying realized eschatology at various times during the week contact: Robert G. Williams usmc1div@earthlink.net; Rodney Barker calvinist@mindspring.com. We are meeting at times commodious to the group, their wives, and Bible studies for the children. We welcome your participation whether a Preterist or of some other persuasion. Truth can only be established in the milieu of rebuttal. Bro. Bob Williams 336.388-5485, Pastor Emeritus, Baptist (?), forty-eight year of pastoral experience.
I must say that I find the Preterist idea very interesting. I look forward to continued study in this very enlightening area. God Bless!! Michael Crass. michaelcrass@yahoo.com
I am trying to be open minded about the Preterist view but it is difficult. If Jesus "came again" in AD70, and every eye beheld him, why is there no historical record of His parousia? I don't find the Preterist view refresing at all. I find it disturbing. Preterists find a literal interpretation of all verses in the Gospels and Espitles, but in Revelation, they seem to pick and choose.
Frank Lovelady
Preterists don't find a literal interpretation in the Gospels and the Epistles regarding the resurrection of the dead, nor the Parousia. On the contrary, the resurrection of believers was a spiritual one and the Parousia was not one that was visible to the physical senses. Instead, it took place within the believers who "were alive and remained." > It's good that Preterism is "disturbing" to you. Whenever we learn something new, we often feel very uncomfortable. I take that discomfort as a sign that you are unlearning many doctrines that didn't make sense to you before. Steve Smith
I have been recently studying the preterist view and I feel that is definitly the Lord's leading. However, I have a couple of questions. Can you explain about the Lord's resurrection? Was is physical or spiritual? Where do we go after we die (Christians) and in what kind of body? And lastly, do you know of any preterist churches in the San Diego, North County area?
Great Site!
All this talk of war and of race. Do you really think that any of it is pertinant? I mean, isn't the primary objective to believe, in the word of God as absolute truth, and thereby be made righteous, thereby be saved. Sure, homosexuality, lesbianism and certain other practices of an immoral nature are irrefutably in opposition to God and the principles He has set forth for us to live by, but isn't it equally sinful to practice fornication, adultary, or drunkenness? Surely God prohibits all the aforementioned acts of debauchery, so why single out only a certain select few? Shouldn't we be concerned with winning these lost and decadent, hell bent souls, and seeing the glory of God revealed through transformation? The bible does say in Romans 1:16 "I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile." Wow, that is hard to swallow, I agree, but the power of salvation is had in BELIEVING the truth of God, not in refuting it to passify our human interpretations, stamping the name of God atop our neatly tied bows of tradition. Are we called to be examples of the very ones that crucified our Lord and Savior? Certainly not!!! We are chosen to a much higher standard. What standard are you living by anyway? God's id LOVE, and there seems a lack of it in your points of view. Stand your ground for righteousness, for moral conduct, for holiness, for Godliness, but are we to codemn and judge those that do not? Read Matthew 7:1 perhaps all the quarralling over right and wrong has served to cloud your memory, but the truth of God is clear and salvation is for all. Yes, for black, white, yellow, homosexual, addicted, you name it. God does not call us to clean up our lives first and add the promise of salvation. He tells us only to believe, and if we really do believe, our lives will evidence that, for we will no longer live life being propelled by our own selfish agendas. We will rather allow the Spirit of God in us to compell us toward love and good deeds. Yes, this my friend, if in fact you are my friends, because your professions seem to conclude the contrary. Thanks be to God, there is grace sufficient enough for us all.
Dear Sirs, I'd like to thank you for undertaking such a huge project in putting together this fanastic archive page.I have visited many times and continue to get great ammunition to wake up the dispensationalists. I regularly print materal to give to them and study myself. I do have a comment or request if it's possible.On most of the pages there is a blue band on the left hand side of the pages that runs verticly all the way down the page about 1.5 inches wide. Would it be possible to eliminate this band? It takes alot more time to print a page and wastes a lot of ink thats not needed on the printed page. I sincerly thank you again for your great undertaking of the site and hope you consider my suggestion. I'm looking forward to hearing back from you whatever you decide. Thank you for your time.A brother in Jesus Christ. E-Mail me at "webcreeper60@hotmail.com" Brian Schultz
Dear Todd, When you left Indiana we thought you were on the "Oregon Trail", well we soon found out you were on the "origin trail". I have seven questions for you. 1) How's the weather in Alexandria this time of year? 2) What's the price of an Egyptian divinity school diploma? 3) When you are so used to fishin' for trout in Alaska, why did you settle for a catfish with pontifical whiskers? 4) Can you tell me how tall Goliath was? You must be careful now---just because the Book uses the word cubit, it may mean anything within the realm of my thought process or anything I can dig up in History. You don't want to use a Biblical definition, you might be called a "wooden literalist" as a recent writer suggested. The other three questions are spiritual and if you don't answer them I'll consider this entrance to the preterist realm finished. I believe if you would go to Antioch and not to Egypt for your considerations in scripture all this preterist shifting sand would clear up. Remember Rome did not practice "whosoever will may come", She practiced "we will come and get whosoever we will". That is a religious system that never practiced a "freewill" ministry. It was good to find you again, it's been about 14 yrs I think. How's the family? Write back soon. Because He came to me. Bro Greg Wilson
Bro Todd, E-mail me at kjb1611gw@hotmail.com. Bro Wilson
A suggestion to brother Greg Wilson: Research the ancient School of Antioch - they were not Baptists. Both Alexandria and Antioch believed in Sacraments, Bishops, and the allegorical interpretation of the Old Testament (just like the Apostles). Read any of the primary sources. I was once like you - lead to believe that the ancient School of Antioch resembled the dispensational school of today. Not so....the theology of ancient Antioch can be found in the Eastern Orthodox Church (except for the Nestorian heresy, of course).
For the record, Todd is not in either School. There is not a single FULL-preterist among any of the ancient Christian writers - no matter what city they were from.
Elias (a true Antiochian Christian)
www.aaron.org
you people are nuts get your heads out of the sand please
Hi put us on the mailing list for your bulletins and study materials.
Mick LaTulip Prairie Street Church of Christ 204 Prairie Street Lowell, IN 46356
A time is coming when preterists will realize that they have almost discovered the truth. The facts are that while Jesus may have believed the things that he said about himself and that he was going to return to judge the world in the lifetime of some of his earliest disciples, the truth is that his failure to do so is proof that he was mistaken. It is also solid proof that in spite of all the arguments to the contrary, he was not really resurrected as the gospels claim and that Biblical miracles were tricks and fabrications invented to convince people of a falsehood; namely, the Biblical God.
Excellent work here, Todd! You are providing a real helpful service to the Christian community!
--Edward E. Stevens, President International Preterist Association
An incredibly great site. F P Miller (Moellerhaus)
The "parousia", the "presence", the "return" od Christ... These all enter the experience of the pilgrim as he puts into practice the teachings of Christ. The promises and prophecies of Christ fulfill themselves, and the pilgrim begins to experience that fulfillment, as he puts into practice the teachings of Christ.
My name is Aimé Labossière. I have a testimony. I've posted it at the URL below. http://www.geocities.com/aimelabossiere
Hi, I think I am a full preterist. However I still have 2 questions at the moment:
1. If everything is fullfilled, when did all the creatures of the sea die?
2. When did a 3rd of humanity die (the jews in 70 AD where only 1/100th of the then known world)
Vincent at vhaakmat@hotmail.com
Graham Old
I am really enjoying your site. I daily find myself "slipping" into full-preterism even whilst I'm trying with all my energies to fight it!
This is a great resource that you are offering, Todd. Please rest assured that even if I stay a Partial Preterist I will continually argue for inclusion of full preterists into the body of Christ. I am ashamed of the actions and attitudes of some of my brothers and sisters.
To glorify the God of Grace by magnifying the grace of God.